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O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: Which Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 09:25

Fill your boots; anything to do with UK politics; referrendum, Chilcott report, leadership contests, etc.
Don't forget, you can still quote posts from the old Referrendum thread if you wish, just copy/paste and put it within quotation tags.
Clearly marked as Off Topic, so feel free to ignore the thread if you don't want to read things not associated with Bath Rugby.



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 19/11/2016 16:15 by Stuart Anderton.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: malco (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 09:53

Can I suggest that if there is to be a dedicated politics discussion thread, people contributing who are actively involved in politics should declare this?

I am not impartial. I've been an active member of the Conservative Party for more than 20 years. I am a candidate, I used to be Chairman of the Bath and North East Somerset Conservative Policy forum, I used to advise the party nationally on media strategy and I have directly campaigned for several parliamentary candidates around the country.

I don't always agree with everything the Conservative Party and various members says and does, and when this occurs I've never been afraid to stick to my principles.

However, what you read from me on any political thread is highly likely to mirror the policies and prevailing attitudes of the Conservative Party.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: TCM2007 (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 10:52

I think it's usually pretty obvious, but for what it's worth I voted Conservative at the last election, but this week joined the Liberal Democrats.



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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: Which Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 11:08

If we're doing this, then I am left-of-centre and disenfranchised. No political party represents my views, even particularly closely; though Lib Dem probably the closest.
I have no faith in party politics; even less currently with the parties seemingly having little faith in themselves, and I have no faith in a FPTP system.



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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: DanWiley (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 11:54

I'm not a member of any party, though toying with the idea of joining the LDs based on their "back in" policy. Generally i don't think political parties are a good thing, in the same sense as democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the others.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: malco (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 12:12

I didn't mean to suggest that people should reveal how they vote, just that if somebody is actively involved in politics (work for a political party, Councillor, candidate, activist/campaigner) and therefore has a vested interest then I think they should declare that interest.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: TCM2007 (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 16:00

They can if they want. Or not if they don't. We're not working for the BBC.



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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: TCM2007 (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 16:06

The news that the Canadian deal - a model for many in the Brexit camp - will have to be individually signed off by all 28 member states in their parliaments or by referendum is a serious blow to those who have said a deal will be easy.

Unless a new UK deal can be included in the exit talks - and the smart money says it won't be - that will put a big hurdle and at the least an extra year on the times table.

Ironically a UK deal could fall foul of Euroceptic protest votes in other countries voting it down!



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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: WilliamBlessing (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 16:16

I am a royalist. I passionately pray for peace and that the United Kingdom stays united under a Parliamentary Democracy.

The EU had failed as a feasible form of government. That was why the referendum resulted in the vote to leave.

We shall see if peace is maintained.

Any other outcome is too horrible to contemplate.

I value beyond words this forum permitting this debate.

I thank the editor for his service to democracy.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: Which Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 18:55


Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: malco (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 19:03

Quote:
Stuart Anderton
They can if they want. Or not if they don't. We're not working for the BBC.

It was a suggestion, not a demand!

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: rainbow (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 19:34

Give this garbage a rest, there was a time when items of this nature would have been consigned, rightly so, to the o/t site. But no on and on this drivel dribbles it's at times like this you wish you bought a banana i would have put gun but the self-righteous amongst you would have wet yourselves. Get over it. (The Eagles)

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: WilliamBlessing (IP Logged)
Date: 09 July, 2016 20:04

Eagles - Take It Easy

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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: Which Tyler (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 10:09

UKIP doing their best to heal the post-referrendum rift int he country: [www.theguardian.com]

In a triumphant speech urging Ukip to take on a new role monitoring the government’s willingness to deliver full Brexit, Hamilton said: “Any attempt to backslide on what the people voted for courts, I think, the possibility of armed revolution in this country.”



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Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: woodpecker (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 10:48

Leaving aside all the debate about what the leavers were voting for, the fact that 48% of the population don't want to leave at all. I dont think that means we can have hard core Brexit.

Hurrah Leadsom withdraws!

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: malco (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 11:07

UKIP are an embarrassing irrelevance. I feel considerably assuaged about Theresa May following her statement this morning and am now happy to fall in behind her.

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: DanWiley (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 11:09

So where does that leave us, may without a mandate of any form?

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: woodpecker (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 11:10

Considering she has been a senior member of the government for 2 terms its not that bad

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: BBWBaaBaa (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 11:12

Quote - "So where does that leave us, may without a mandate of any form?"

With a mandate that the Corbyn doesn't have! The support of the vast majority of the MP's in her party smiling smiley

Re: O/T UK Politics Thread
Posted by: DanWiley (IP Logged)
Date: 11 July, 2016 11:14

She's the obvious choice, but she's barely been voted for by anyone, I think that won't do her any favours. She's not in such a different position from Brown, if anything a bit weaker.

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