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Number 10
Posted by: terracehugger (IP Logged)
Date: 13 May, 2019 21:42

Pollard to Montpellier.
Quade Cooper to Quins.
Guess who weíve ended up with!!

Speaks volumes about the perceived status of our club.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: sirtidychris (IP Logged)
Date: 13 May, 2019 21:50

Montpellier is a beautiful sunny city full of saffas and I would prefer burns and preistland over cooper, whatever mercurial talents he has wouldnt want him in the blue, black and white. Would take Marcus Smith though



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 13 May, 2019 21:55

Bit closer to SA, better weather, loads of S.A.s there and no doubt enough cash to choke a donkey. Itís not like he joined any other clubs a lot better than Montpellier so donít really think it says much about Bath tbh.



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: Coalminer (IP Logged)
Date: 13 May, 2019 22:33

I donít think Cooper would have been much of an upgrade for Bath. I think the Pollard move reflects the status of his bank account once he signs for them.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: Substitute (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 00:11

What are Quins playing at?

A highly successful season with a talented 10 pulling the strings. What do we need: a problematic and enigmatic 10... Gustard will need to be at the top of his game and I don't regret him not being at Bath.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: Ali1969 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 09:41

Pollard to Montpellier is the one that sticks out to me - we were led to believe that this had fallen through due to central contracts in SARFU...

If it came down to money then fair enough...somehow I don't buy that - this comes down to the club, coaches and ambition..

Montpellier - strong recruitment - adamant about challenging on all fronts, (proven and experienced) Vern Cotter in charge as DoR, oh an they have appointed a Head Coach and full coaching set up....

Us - All the rumours surrounding TB leaving and disaffection in the club, now Novice DoR who it is assumed does not need a Head Coach - has no coaching experience or coaching qualifications but will pick the team...A very inexperienced squad but we do have a world class back three and back row when fit...Oh yes and we are negotiating a lovely new stadium maybe...

WHERE IS THE AMBITION IN OUR CLUB!!!!

Is it any wonder why he would chose Montpellier over us... Look at London Irish still a championship side signing world class players in anticipation for next years campaign following Bristol's blueprint when they came up signing CP. Both clubs have got seasoned and respected full coaching teams in place...Our signings over the past few years since TF and SU has been truy awful and underwhelming..

As for Quins they are signing Cooper for the X Factor - when and if this man's head is screwed on he is as good as anyone in the world and offers something completely different to anything else they have - he also plays right across the backline...Good signing IMHO if and big if his head is straight...Gustard is a very shrewd operator and knows his players so imagine he is confident he can handle Coopers ego.

A really sad day - my wife informed me yesterday that my son's no longer wish to renew their Season Tickets with Bath FC they both believe Bath will genuinely be relegation targets with Tigers next season unless Bruce gets his way to ring fence..The upshot is I won't be renewing mine either ....Tragedy for me personally but a reality check as to where the club is and it's immediate future...Still support the boys but cannot argue given the past performances and complete lack of ambition to want to challenge...



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 10:18

Quote:
Ali1969
..A very inexperienced squad but we do have a world class back three and back row when fit...Oh yes and we are negotiating a lovely new stadium maybe...
WHERE IS THE AMBITION IN OUR CLUB!!!!


You have probably answered your own question. Never underestimate the value of a new stadium. For inexperienced read young, yes its a risk but so is Quade Cooper, remains to be seen if Gustard can handle him.

The Pollard issue looks more like the family, friends and money had a big influence. Where we agree is the coaching bit. Seems crazy to me, it looks as though we are destined to get halfway through next season before we realise the error of our ways and sign a head coach as an emergency.

To get back on topic we definitely need a 10, whether that comes from developing our own or buying one I'm not sure, if that is not an option because of availability then I would like to see a class 9, who could transform our current quiver of 10's.

Fact is, we just have to accept that the club complement is what it is, like you though I'm worried.



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: Rawce (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 10:42

Pollard sounds like another Genia, so it may be for the best.

Iíd be concerned if both of Quins 10s were the X factor type and no steady Eddie. However, having a steady hand/envelope pusher combo hasnít exactly worked for us has it?

Re: Number 10
Posted by: Ali1969 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 11:15

Jeez - sale are doing some business - add the probability that Mark Wilson is joining as well - they could be serious contenders next year...

Re: Number 10
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 12:18

If it is down to paying money under the cap then maybe we need to get the players into property development more......

Re: Number 10
Posted by: noidea (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 13:31

I believe we offered Pollard a decent Marquee salary of around 750K pa. I understand Altrad offered him around Ä1.5m. Plus they have a lot of Bok contacts at Montpellier.
I donít think it would have been good for the team to have one player being paid so much more than everyone else, Pollard will now probably be the highest paid player in Europe.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: hasta (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 14:07

Yeah that's my understanding too, noidea. Pollard would have been marquee and cap-excluded for us, but that Montpelier-level salary would have been destabilising to the squad.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: B4thB4ck (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 14:28

That's a lot of money, near football levels. I wonder what his team mates will think of it, or the supporters against a background of political unrest in the country.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: gaz59 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 14:37

If those figures are close to true then it was a no-brainer in a way. It would have had the likes of JJ, Ant and Joe banging on Tarquin's door. No English club could afford the fall out from matching that level of silly money

Re: Number 10
Posted by: warrenball (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 15:05

The old choice between the dull but dependable and the outrageous but sometimes erratic fly half. As I go to rugby to enjoy watching the skills on display and not ending up falling asleep I would always choose Barnes, Catt, Cipriani or Cooper over Andrew or Priestland.

I understand I am at odds with many fine coaches but I am not sure if this is because the coaches worry they will some lose control because these players play the game as they see it and not by numbers or if it because they become so crucial to the team they cannot be easily replaced if injured.

To have one of these players the whole club has got to be signed up to their style of play and this has worked in spades for Gloucester and I think will work for Quins under Gustard. I think it will also pay off for them because it will bring on young Marcus Smith and make him a very good player.

I worry that despite the hardness of the seats at Bath I may be getting plenty of rest on Saturday afternoons.

Re: Number 10
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 16:13

+1 to noidea and Hasta. I also understand that Pollard had agreed our terms but was persuaded not to sign mainly by his family and the lure of bigger money.



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 16:30

If Montpellier really offered double what Bath could pay then it was a no brainer for Pollard.

Still concerning that we go into next season with 2 inconsistent, injury prone 10's though.

Surely there must be a better 10 around somewhere?



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 17:20

Quote:
OutsideBath
If Montpellier really offered double what Bath could pay then it was a no brainer for Pollard.
Still concerning that we go into next season with 2 inconsistent, injury prone 10's though.

Surely there must be a better 10 around somewhere?

If you find one OB I am sure Hoops would be delighted to hear from you!



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: OutsideBath (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 17:28

Quote:
CoochieCoo
Quote:
OutsideBath
If Montpellier really offered double what Bath could pay then it was a no brainer for Pollard.
Still concerning that we go into next season with 2 inconsistent, injury prone 10's though.

Surely there must be a better 10 around somewhere?

If you find one OB I am sure Hoops would be delighted to hear from you!

So you honestly believe that there isn't a single 10 in the world who is;

a) Better than what we've been left with.
b) Available.
c) Could be persuaded to come to Bath.

I do find that hard to believe.



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Re: Number 10
Posted by: shipwrecked (IP Logged)
Date: 14 May, 2019 18:02

Quote:
OutsideBath
Quote:
CoochieCoo
Quote:
OutsideBath
If Montpellier really offered double what Bath could pay then it was a no brainer for Pollard.
Still concerning that we go into next season with 2 inconsistent, injury prone 10's though.

Surely there must be a better 10 around somewhere?

If you find one OB I am sure Hoops would be delighted to hear from you!

So you honestly believe that there isn't a single 10 in the world who is;

a) Better than what we've been left with.
b) Available.
c) Could be persuaded to come to Bath.

I do find that hard to believe.

Name that 10 OB why do you think we re-signed RP?



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