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Adams Dropped
Posted by: usa warrior (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 21:51

From Wales squad.

Club couldnít release him for a June 2nd match out of the international window.

Crap situation...

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Underdog (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 22:08

Baffling, given our season is over. Presumably we'd have been fined? Common sense failure it seems, unless I'm missing something.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Garym (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 22:21

Well he will be going back to Wales regardless of this at the end of next season. I would question more the WRU yet again going for matches outside of the officially sanctioned window for international matches. They know the situation with the PRL with regards to these games, so why do they make out they are the innocent parties in this? The club are following the rules, so I donít blame them at all

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: WorcesterSauce (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 22:42

He will definitely be off now

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: w4rriorz1980 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 23:15

But why the hell would we need Adams on June 2nd?!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/05/2018 23:45 by w4rriorz1980.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Brummagem Bertie (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 23:18

Quote:
w4rriorz1980
But why the he'll would we need Adams on June 2nd?!

We don't but PRL have spoken, so must be obeyed.



Whatever you do, do it safely!

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: usa warrior (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 23:32

Absolutely s**t situation for him. Gutted for the guy.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Humps for 1 Mile (IP Logged)
Date: 16 May, 2018 23:44

Very sorry for Josh who has no say in the matter.

The WRU would have known that this situation would arise with English based players when they set the test dates.

The PRL rules are clear so if there is any 'blame' then it is at the feet of the WRU who may be trying to force the hands of the players affected. Back door blackmail?

Politics at play - poor Josh an innocent pawn caught in the middle of it.

Shame, especially as he was named in the team of the season this evening.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Garym (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 06:40

Quote:
WorcesterSauce
He will definitely be off now
do you mean before the start of next season or at the end of next season? We all know he will be off at the end based on the current wales situation

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: knightstemplar (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 07:27

Its PRL not Warriors so Im told

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 07:29

Of course itís the WRU playing politics and attacking their own players for playing in England.

At the point of selection they knew the players would be unavailable, so why select them other than to public ally drop them to make a point. All at the expense of the players.

JP

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Southstand(again) (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 08:10

totally agree Jp,

I'm not a Welsh selector or fixture organiser but I've taken the trouble to read World Rugby's regulation 9.

The Window clearly opens on 9th June when players from outside Unions are made available for matches. Why therefore, organise a tour where the opening game falls outside this window ?

The Welsh Union don't contribute to the wages of Charteris, Francis or Adams so it would be obvious that regulation 9 would be relevant.

Why, therefore, pick them to tour in the first place ?

Little men playing little games.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Warr-i-ors! (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 08:12

Iíd just like to echo the sentiments expressed by others. This is absolutely no fault of the club or PRL. The rules are in place and of course they have to be followed. Gatland and the WRU know the rules (theyíre nothing new) and they have chosen, yet again, to play internationals outside the established window.

Itís just a massive blow for Josh who is paying the price for the ignorance displayed by the WRU. The blame sits firmly at their door.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: TVM Rides Again (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 08:25

Quote:
Faithful_City
Of course itís the WRU playing politics and attacking their own players for playing in England.
At the point of selection they knew the players would be unavailable, so why select them other than to public ally drop them to make a point. All at the expense of the players.

JP


Sorry to say, but I agree.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Freypal (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 08:44

Agree with the above sentiments. Not just Adams, affects Charteris and Francis too. WRU know the rules but want to squeeze every last penny out of the international game with these pointless money spinning tests.

Smacks of trying to prove a point to players outside of Wales.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: TeflonTed (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 08:52

Was it £50k Saints were fined for releasing North under similar circumstances? (Twice). He had a release clause written in his Saints contract iirc.

WRFU are a dreadful bunch of old pharts.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Southstand(again) (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 09:10

It was £60k, Ted, the same amount as Bath had to pay for releasing Faletau outside the window.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Brummagem Bertie (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 10:37

It's nice to know that the NZRU would have had so much positive support on this board if they had decided not to release Brad Shields for England. ;-)



Whatever you do, do it safely!

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: Southstand(again) (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 11:05

Don't get the comparison Bertie.

The whole point of the Long form agreement is that Premiership Rugby controls the rights to its players and the RFU abides by that agreement.

If Wales want full access to Charteris, Francis and Adams and aren't happy with the provisions of World Rugby's regulation 9 they need, if the players are willing ,to buy out their contracts and place the players with a region.

It's all about the money.

Re: Adams Dropped
Posted by: FlipFlop (IP Logged)
Date: 17 May, 2018 12:28

It's a nice way of the WRU to 'remind' their exiles that they are that, by creating this issue. Gatland knows the rules as well as we do, and so to pick players where he knew this rule would arise (has he forgetten the Felatau and North selections and fines?), so in my mind this is nothing more than stirring the pile by the WRU. Almost suggesting, if you don't do something quick lads, you'll not be having a look in in the future.

Not a Warrior problem, bar when Josh leaves of course.

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