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Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: FrTed (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 07:15

If news reports today are correct Gatland and his merry selection crew are going for his usual get them big and bash them up approach in The Lions selection. Also looks like Hartley may get the nod. Maybe credit for playing on the front foot but I cant help thinking the ABs will soon snuff that approach out with skill sets second to none.

Predictions are No George Ford, no J Joseph and no Joe Launchbury; the latter omission being foolhardy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 18/04/2017 07:16 by FrTed.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: HMRH (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 07:28

Hooker is another tough choice although I'd pick Owens, George and Hartley but suspect DH could be divisive so Best would go as a "better" tourist although I think Hartley is the better player (cue disagreements)

Watson would at least give us an ex LI player

Anyone other LI folk going over to NZ to watch the tour?

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Nick4219 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 07:35

If Launchbury isn't on that plane then it's a real travesty!

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Ozzy3213 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 08:02

Disagree on Launchbury. Lock is a really competitive area for selection, hell, Launchbury isn't even a guaranteed starter for England if everyone is fit. It is an area where a number of top class players will have to be left out, as there is a list of probably 8 or 9 who could go, but only 4 or 5 who will.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Shawshank (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 08:10

You have got to score tries to beat NZ, and if Joseph is left behind it would be complete idiocy by Gatland, as he is clearly the most skillful and best attacking centre in Northern Hemisphere rugby.

Likewise with Launch - his grafting and defence is second to none and would be sorely missed.

If Roberts is selected it would be a joke.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Nick4219 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 08:16

Launchbury may not have been initially first choice for England, but, over the tournament I feel he was England's best player behind Farrell and could have been awarded player of the tournament so has more than justified his Lions credentials.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: LI Bohemian (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 08:26

I'm pretty sure most that should go will end up going there will be plenty of injuries on this tour it is a crazy schedule designed for commercial reasons and not for player welfare



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Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: HMRH (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 08:56

Can't see Roberts gling

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Strom (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 10:44

I find it hard to take the selections seriously. It seems to me to be always Wales centric.

Good for Scotland though : their players will all be fit for their own AIs as they weren't involved in the Lions.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: DrV'sHairyCraic (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 11:05

As stated, typical Gatland.

I don't know why he keeps playing to a formula which he's never made successful.

Launchberry was one of the best players in the 6N and deserves a slot for that alone. Add on his club form and he should be one of the 1st on the list.

As for JJ. Did the coaches not see how he carved up defences? I know it won't be so easy out there but no one else can do what he does.

Ford's omission (if he is) is probably understandable given other options and his poor defence.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Jamiepep1 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 12:10

Launchberry would feel very hard done by especially given his form in the 6N, kruis is only just coming back from injury and Itoje has played as a 6 for England.

JJ being left out is criminal. There isn't a 13 in the four nations that comes close to him. His ability to beat defenders in limited space sets him apart. imagine the damage he could do with sexton/farrell combining to put him in space.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: dooj106 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 21:03

Agreed that Launchbury can feel hard done by. Having said that it is a very competitive position and there are lots of other 2nd rows who are just as good. Other players like Itoje will be ahead of him because they can play multiple positions and thus cover injuries.

JJ not going is outrageous IMHO. He is the best outside centre in the northern hemisphere.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: waltham (IP Logged)
Date: 18 April, 2017 22:56

Yup...wot most said

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Foggy-Balla (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 08:37

I saw on another site that Launchbury has changed his name to Llaunchbury & has been selected after all.



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Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Shawshank (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 08:58

It would be pretty poor if the Scots only get their predicted 2 members of the party - yet Wales get 10.

If the likes of Roberts, Biggar and Halfpenny in the squad I really can't be bothered to follow the tour as it will be obvious that the selection for the test team is going to be biased towards the Welshmen.

When did Wales last beat the AB's btw...?

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Shropshire Hugh (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 09:00

Scotland beat Wales by 16 points.

Predicted tourists:

Wales 14
Scotland 1

Joke



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Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: HMRH (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 09:18

Really? Come on

Hogg is a shoe in and possible places for Nel and Seymour. Maybe an argument for Taylor in the centre but who else for Scotland walks onto that plane?

Scotland we good in some games and woeful against England and I suspect that has cost them. Equally JJ and Launchbury were nullified by the Irish so would have been pushed back, much as though I'd happily take both.

Whoever goes I can't wait - bloomin love the Lions

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Nick4219 (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 09:45

I too like the prospect of watching the Lions, but, how can 10 players from the 5th best Six Nations team get 10 spots in a 39 strong squad?

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: DrV'sHairyCraic (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 09:50

Quote:
HMRH
Really? Come on

Scotland we good in some games and woeful against England and I suspect that has cost them. Equally JJ and Launchbury were nullified by the Irish so would have been pushed back, much as though I'd happily take both.



If you're going to can people for 1 poor game, it's going to be a pretty empty flight.

By that logic, North will be sat at home as he had 4 very poor games followed by one blinder. I bet he'll be there tho.

Re: Bish bash bosh Lions
Posted by: Shawshank (IP Logged)
Date: 19 April, 2017 10:37

If Gatland follows HMRH's bizarre selectorial thoughts, and discounts a player due to one poor game in the 6N, then Elliot Daly should be nowhere near selection as he had an absolute mare compared to JJ in Dublin...

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