Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons


By Saint Ted
November 30 2017

SAINTS TEAM NAMED FOR FALCONS FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2017

The Saints have made three changes to their starting line-up as they welcome Newcastle to Franklin’s Gardens in the Aviva Premiership.

England duo Courtney Lawes and Dylan Hartley return, the latter to captain the side, while Rob Horne is at outside centre.

The replacements are bolstered by Api Ratuniyarawa, Piers Francis and Ahsee Tuala, all of whom have been on international duty.

 

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SAINTS TEAM TO PLAY NEWCASTLE
Aviva Premiership Round 10
Franklin’s Gardens
Friday 1 December 2018
Kick off 7:45pm

15 Harry Mallinder 
14 Juan Pablo Estelles 
13 Rob Horne 
12 Tom Stephenson
11 Ben Foden 
10 James Grayson 
9 Cobus Reinach 
1 Alex Waller 
2 Dylan Hartley (capt) 
3 Jamal Ford-Robinson 
4 Michael Paterson 
5 Courtney Lawes 
6 Tom Wood 
7 Jamie Gibson
8 Teimana Harrison

16 Mikey Haywood              
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Paul Hill
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Mitch Eadie
21 Nic Groom
22 Piers Francis
23 Ahsee Tuala

 

Kieran Brookes (hand), Charlie Clare (knee), James Craig (concussion) and George North (knee) are unavailable for selection.

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Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Marching On (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 11:50

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Posted by: John Rickerd (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 11:43

SAINTS TEAM TO PLAY NEWCASTLE
Aviva Premiership Round 10
Franklinís Gardens
Friday 1 December 2018
Kick off 7:45pm

15 Harry Mallinder
14 Juan Pablo Estelles
13 Rob Horne
12 Tom Stephenson
11 Ben Foden
10 James Grayson
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller
2 Dylan Hartley (capt)
3 Jamal Ford-Robinson
4 Michael Paterson
5 Courtney Lawes
6 Tom Wood
7 Jamie Gibson
8 Teimana Harrison

16 Mikey Haywood
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Paul Hill
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Mitch Eadie
21 Nic Groom
22 Piers Francis
23 Ahsee Tuala



Kieran Brookes (hand), Charlie Clare (knee), James Craig (concussion) and George North (knee) are unavailable for selection.

Re: Teams up
Posted by: Mobbs (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 11:49

So the press release regarding Ribbans and Day was just smoking mirrors....again ! I guess that Collins is just not sufficiently multi-positional to get a place on the bench....his pace could have torn Newcastle apart in the last twenty minutes. May as well wrap certain people in cotton wool for a couple of weeks before Exeter come calling.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: andysaint (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 11:56

I'm not sure Collins is as effective with the current pack deficiencies Saints has. Front foot ball is a different matter.

A much stronger team and it's great seeing Horne, Hartley and Lawes back. Further it is great to see Stephenson and Grayson retain their places. We also have a strong bench.

A must win Saints, must win. No excuses at home.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Wilson Pickett (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:08

Am I missing something on England and super rugby back sitting on the bench?


That aside, Delighted with selection, the right mindset. COYS.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:25

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HungryLikeTheWolf
Am I missing something on England and super rugby back sitting on the bench?

That aside, Delighted with selection, the right mindset. COYS.

I donít think he has set the world on fire to warrant an automatic selection. We have seen glimpses of his talent but I think itís a good call to stick with young Grayson for now. The England stuff is a bit of a distraction for me as I think he would be better placed cementing his position at the Saints. He will get his chance soon enough

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Stockers (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:35

Yay, Estelles on the wing again!

All together now, (to the tune of Guantanamera)

"There's only Juan Pablo,
There is only Juan Pablo,
Only Juan Pablo,
There is only Juan Pablo!"

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Stevie Myler's right boot (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:35

150th Premiership game in a row for Mr Waller

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Lamont4Saints (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:40

So Brookeís only not starting due to an injury. With JFR starting, Paul Hill our once England standard TH is now our third choice?

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: charlieemeriau (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 12:49

Wood and Gibson are too similar IMO, would have preferred API in second row and Courtney at 6, Francis and Tuala I guess could have made it into the 15 if it wasnt for them coming back from international duties...

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: LeicesterSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 13:09

I was just thinking the same, I don't understand playing both Wood and Gibson, for me its one or the other on form. Other than that excited to see this team play.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: herbie85 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 13:16

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Lamont4Saints
So Brookeís only not starting due to an injury. With JFR starting, Paul Hill our once England standard TH is now our third choice?

I'm happy if JFR is the form prop. Would be nice if we selected on form over reputation.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: SuffolkSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 13:37

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LeicesterSaint
I was just thinking the same, I don't understand playing both Wood and Gibson, for me its one or the other on form. Other than that excited to see this team play.

Totally agree - choose one of them to play at 6 and then play a proper 7 at 7 like Harrison or Ludlam!

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Saint Jericho (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 13:41

Pretty happy with this team. It sounds like Jim has been following this forum and provided. The new Messiah, Estelles is starting which should keep some people on here happy for a bit.
I don't actually mind the combination of Wood and Gibson on the flanks and I'm looking forward to seeing Stephenson and Horne in midfield.
I'm feeling more optimistic about this game now. Saints by 10

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Mobbs (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 13:56

Quite agree with walks about Francis. I liked the look of him for England last weekend but have not yet, repeat, yet seen him do a lot in a Saints shirt....time will tell.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Stingray66 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 14:07

And the Falcons are..

15 Simon Hammersley
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Chris Harris
12 Josh Matavesi
11 Sinoti Sinoti
10 Toby Flood
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Rob Vickers
2 Kyle Cooper
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Sean Robinson
6 Will Welch (captain)
7 Gary Graham
8 Mark Wilson

Replacements

16 Scott Lawson
17 Sami Mavinga
18 Scott Wilson
19 Will Witty
20 Nili Latu
21 Sam Stuart
22 Joel Hodgson
23 Alex Tait

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: alwayshopeful (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 14:11

A better selection but still mystified by Grayson (or Stephenson) keeping Francis on the bench.. (pleased for them, of course, but I don't get it.)

Also mystified we our back row.. 2 sixes playing 6 and 7 and a 7 playing 8, with an 8 on the bench. Surely, Tom or Jamie at 6, Lewis / T at 7 and Mitch at 8 is the more balanced..

Also got to have concerns over Harry at 15 - glimpses of class, but large portions of "head in the hands" moments.. but 15 is his best position so, maybe, fair enough to allow him time to develop into the role and improve..

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Dragonboy (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 14:29

I think you guys are forgetting that last Monday's Wanderers game was Lewis's first game back after being hospitalised following glandular fever. I know he's young and was looking good at the beginning of the season but a first time return is somewhat premature.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Nath-coys (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 14:34

Back row still a worry for me.

In my opinion Courts is the form 6 in the Prem.
So he goes at 6.
T goes at 7.
Eadie at 8.

Seems more balanced and could provide more front foot ball.
Api in too the 2nd row.

Backs -

Really happy too see Stephenson at 12. Luther has had some good games.
But Tom can run the hard lines required and defend very well, as well as having very good ability with the ball.

Wings look weak too me!

Coysssssssssss

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Saintsman94 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 14:59

Pretty Happy with this selection. I still have reservations about the back row balance like a few other people, however hopefully with the return of Courtney and Ludlam playing for the Wanderers earlier in the week, we could be seeing a much stronger back row in the next few weeks.

That would be my first choice front row, so I'm hoping they go well and and I have a lot of faith in the centre partnership of Stephenson and Horne. Would have liked to have seen Tom Collins on the wing in place of Foden but a bit of experience in the back 3 against the attacking threat that Newcastle have in theres might not be a bad thing.

Looks to me like a very strong Falcons team, much better than the one who lost to Gloucester last week and I imagine they're going to be desperate for a reaction. This could be a hell of a game, I think the strength of our bench could be the difference.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: SaintsAsh (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:02

I love this, great to see Grayson given another game. Great to see Stephenson selected, Piers has probably played a lot (not sure when last super rugby game was) but he can come on for Steph/Gray if needed.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: LeicesterSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:12

I'm sure Toby Flood will be looking forward to getting reacquainted with Courtney Lawes......

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Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Chris Hoddle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:38

Seemed to me last week Mr Stephenson only received the ball around the 74th minute, strangely about the time Mr Myler entered the arena.
I hope that this is not repeated this week.

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Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Deesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:47

Please
Just win
Even if it's by a point
Let's start to put some day light between ourselves and the relegation zone.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Eif Jones (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:51

Sman94 this is the front row that was pulverised out in Clermont, not a great prospect if it is our preferred first choice.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: SaintsAsh (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:55

Falcons and Clermont scrum are like chalk and cheese smiling smiley

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Stockers (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 15:56

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Nath-coys



Wings look weak too me!

Coysssssssssss

Really!!!!!!????

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Saintsman94 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 16:40

Eif, I'm not at all suggesting that it's a world beating front row, just the best one I think Saints can field. I'm very much in the school of thought that we should be investing a significant sum of money into getting a/some world class prop/props for next season, Until then, I think this is the best we've got and are capable of besting their opposite numbers in Fridays game.

Who would you rather start Eif?

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Nath-coys (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 18:47

Quote:
Stockers
Quote:
Nath-coys



Wings look weak too me!

Coysssssssssss

Really!!!!!!????


Yes mate I do!!!!!!!!

i think Foden and estelles are good players. I am not going too go in to there weaknesses or anything.

But I do not enjoy the prospect of Sinoti or Goneva with ball in hand against them.

We need some big strong reliable wingers... They don't have too be marque players or anything like that.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Box kick it (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 19:42

Grayson starting sends a message that if you play well you keep the shirt. Good on ya Jim. Letís get back to players earning their shirts. Raise the standards through competition.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: protestbeat (IP Logged)
Date: 30/11/2017 22:38

Like the Grayson selection. Francis covers 10/12 so good bench option. Looks a nice balance in backs with bench looking strong. Hopefully a few tactical changes at 50-60mins could make the difference.

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2017 08:37

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Nath-coys
Quote:
Stockers
Quote:
Nath-coys



Wings look weak too me!

Coysssssssssss

Really!!!!!!????


Yes mate I do!!!!!!!!

i think Foden and estelles are good players. I am not going too go in to there weaknesses or anything.

But I do not enjoy the prospect of Sinoti or Goneva with ball in hand against them.

We need some big strong reliable wingers... They don't have too be marque players or anything like that.

Foden doesnít miss many tackles, at full back over the years heís been a very reliable last line of defence. Havenít seen enough of JP to judge but big is not always best

Re: Teams Up: Saints vs Falcons
Posted by: Wilson Pickett (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2017 10:33

Quote:
Mobbs
Quite agree with walks about Francis. I liked the look of him for England last weekend but have not yet, repeat, yet seen him do a lot in a Saints shirt....time will tell.


Lol heís barely played. If we signed Beauden Barrett tomorrow is this logic Ďwe havenít seen him do it in GB&Gí

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