Saracens v London Scottish POST MATCH-RELATED CONTENT HERE


Sarries flag flying
By saracensfan62
November 7 2024

I’m going to keep this pre-match relatively short and sweet. Hopefully that's the way you all enjoy a preview!

After an intriguing weekend where both our mens and ladies teams lost their matches vs Ealing Trailfinders away and Exeter Chiefs away quite heavily, the men are in need of bouncing back this weekend vs London Scottish. Seemingly a team that have been very quiet in recent years in the Championship where they have finished in 11th position  for 3 consecutive seasons. The most notable names from Scottish are Will Talbot-Davies, an ex-Wales international and former Dragons player. A strong utility back, playing either wing, centre or full back, he will be one player to watch. Another name some may recognise is ex-saracen Brian Tuilagi (yes, another Tuilagi!), son of Fereti Tuilagi (Freddie Tuilagi). Brian spent 2 years at Allianz Park (as it was then known) before moving onto Dax in the D2 in France. After some time there, he made the short journey across the water to Scottish Another super player who will be one to watch, if he’s starting of course.

As for us, there are numerous problems to be resolved. We were the most penalised team at the scrum last season and that problem resurfaced vs Ealing last weekend. Without the usual guns in the front row, Saracens looked extremely weak in the scrum and I struggled to count the number of penalties that we conceded at the set piece last week against Ealing, including the two yellows for Knight and newbie Phil Brantingham after both collapsing driving mauls, Knight’s one resulting in a penalty try. No doubt that Mark McCall and Co. have been racking their brains in order to come up with a solution to that seemingly underlying problem of a lack of ‘oomph’ in the set piece. Ealing are a strong team however and we must give them credit for that. They'd give numerous teams in the Premiership a good run for their money!

There’s no doubt young Olamide Sodeke, Max Eke and Angus Hall (to name just a few!) are all super prospects for the future however all players need time and we cannot allow these young players to be thrown in the deep end too quickly so to speak, as I feel they were last weekend. It’s good to see the squad depth we still have and the exciting youth coming forward and challenging the senior lads to their spots in the 23. At the start of the season, I heard a lot of rumours and news concerning new options at 9 for Sarries when Aled Davies returned to Wales but I, along with many others, am constantly impressed by the performances of young Charlie Bracken, son of Kyran (I still do a double-take when I see Bracken at 9!) and I do hope he decides to continue his career with us. He has already proved himself on the international stage with England U20s.

This weekend again could be a banana skin for us. There’s absolutely no room for complacency and it would be a disservice to London Scottish and the young Saracens team we are likely to field to say that this is a ‘dead rubber’ with the two teams in 3rd and 4th and on 1 and 0 points respectively – we still have Harlequins in 2 weekends time and if Harlequins can beat Ealing this weekend, we still stand a chance (however slim it may be) of qualifying. I personally only remember the last time we really made strides in the PRC or indeed the Anglo-Welsh cup was when we beat Exeter in 2015 in the cup. Since then, it seems we’ve been quiet for a long time. Let’s hope that that sarries will take this year more seriously and we will see them progress further in the competition.

This weekend’s match should be an entertaining one with lots of tries (hopefully many of them ours!) and flowing, attacking rugby. We certainly possess the talent in the backline to cause some serious damage to some teams defence. As always, come on sarries!

Saracens v London Scottish POST MATCH-RELATED CONTENT HERE
Posted by: TheSaracens.com (IP Logged)
Date: 07/11/2024 16:26

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Re: Saracens v London Scottish POST MATCH-RELATED CONTENT HERE
Posted by: ICantBelieveItsNotBartyII (IP Logged)
Date: 07/11/2024 20:14

End of the write up talking about a dead rubber seems to suggest its just these 3 games in the Prem Cup - there's another three in February!

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 08:37

I’m certainly not hoping for a repeat of our last home game against them in 1998 when we were cup holders and 5hey were bottom of the league.
It was the day after Boxing Day and an early score for us suggested an easy win.
We then produced one of the worst performances in our history to go do 7-24…

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Posted by: ComeOnSarries (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 09:08

We so often seemed to bring our worst game of the season, to the match just after Christmas, particularly whilst at Vicarage Road, even though it was often one of the best attended games of the season. I can’t remember this particular game, so possibly I was elsewhere or my brain has simply shut it out!

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Posted by: MarkCol7 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 10:14

Will the England game be shown before at the ground?

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 12:08

Saracens Men team to play London Scottish:

1 Sam Crean

2 James Hadfield

3 Fraser Balmain

4 Harry Wilson

5 Kennedy Sylvester

6 Max Eke

7 Izaiha Moore-Aiono

8 Nathan Michelow (c)

9 Callum Braley

10 Tim Swiel

11 Brandon Jackson

12 Olly Hartley

13 Sam Spink

14 Angus Hall

15 Tom Parton

Replacements:

16 James Isaacs

17 Phil Brantingham

18 Alec Clarey

19 Charlie West

20 Reggie Hammick

21 Gareth Simpson

22 Tiff Eden

23 Jack Bracken

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Posted by: dawson9 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 12:18

Hi all

Our team below:

London Scottish Team

1 George Cave
2 Jack Musk
3 Ashley Challenger
4 Alex Wardell
5 Bailey Ransom (cc)
6 Ioan Rhys Davies
7 Lewis Barrett
8 Tom Marshall
9 Dan Nutton (cc)
10 Tom Wilstead
11 Noah Ferdinand
12 Robbie McCallum
13 Will Talbot-Davies
14 Will Brown
15 Josh Bellamy

Replacements

Austin Wallis
Ethan Clarke
Ntinga Mpiko
Matt Wilkinson
Jack Ingall
Stephen Kerins
Alec Lloyd-Seed
Will Simonds

Couple of notes on the opening post - talbot-davies isn't a full international but has played for Wales u20/7s. Originally signed from Coventry as a 15 he's made the outside centre shirt his own. Sadly brian tuilagi retired last year - numerous injury problems last season meant he barely played.

Players to watch from our side are will brown at 14 (champ top try scorer 2 season ago with jersey), dan button at 9 who is a bit of a livewire, and alex wardall at 4 - once of your parish! While announced as a backrow when he joined he's played at lock all season and nailed down a starting spot.

Here's to a good game!

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Posted by: jonnybrowne (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 12:37

I’d hardly call the second game of six a dead rubber…

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Posted by: Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 13:33

Saracens v London Scottish

Referee: Richard Gordon
ARs: Craig Maxwell-Keys & Gareth Holsgrove

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 17:21

I’m hoping the signing on a trial of Tiff Eden doesn’t suggest Burke or Goodey aren’t more seriously injured.
As a 30 year old ex Zebre and Bristol he wouldn’t be considered one for the future.

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Posted by: Strangelove (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2024 17:41

Looking forward to seeing the Hartley/Spink partnership!

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 18:21

Sounds like a much better performance, albeit against a very different team. HT 49-10

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Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 19:16

Sarries win 99-27

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Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 19:41

Can't believe they took James off when he had the men's try scoring record in his sights! 😄

Re: Saracens v London Scottish POST MATCH-RELATED CONTENT HERE
Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 22:26

Very strange game. First half we struggled to get forward in the middle of the pitch but were unstoppable close to the line.
Think Brandon Jackson only touched the ball 3 times. Only one scrum in the second half and that was in the last minute.
Hard to judge how effective Balmain was against that level of opponent. Swiel kicked superbly from hand and tee, and Eden looked pretty decent too.
Hartley stood out and will surely be challenging for a first team slot.

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Posted by: saracensfan62 (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 22:29

I'm clearly not au fait with the new format of this competition, I didn't know that there was a 2nd round of matches in February. Apologies all regarding the dead-rubber game comment, but I do wish the PRL would stop mucking around with the rules as it makes it harder to keep up-to-date.

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Posted by: darktagnan (IP Logged)
Date: 09/11/2024 23:09

Whilst our pack was pretty dominant (unstoppable when mauling) I would really like to have seen a bit more from the backline. Olly took the ball into contact nearly every time even when a wider pass to Spink & onwards seemed to be an option. Brandon Jackson was out on the wing about 20m from anyone who might have passed to him - not criticising him, we just didn't seem to have an option to do anything other than crash up the middle. Set piece overall pretty good especially lineout.
You might think I'm being over picky given the scoreline, but Hartley & Spink are realistically our future choice of centres & I didn't see as much as I was hoping to.

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Posted by: darktagnan (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2024 00:06

in case anyone was wondering what our all time top score is - Saracens 151 Dinamo Bucarest 0 [www.theguardian.com]

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Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2024 08:51

To be honest, although it was good to see some of our emerging talent on show, it was all too easy so not overly entertaining. On the up side I'm sure the players and coaches will have learnt a few things, especially about optional defence.

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Posted by: AlanE2 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2024 15:06

Quote:
darktagnan
in case anyone was wondering what our all time top score is - Saracens 151 Dinamo Bucarest 0 [www.theguardian.com]

Oh yes -was that the one where their coach was the spitting image of Super Mario?

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Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2024 15:45

And he got an enormous cheer every time he ran on (frequently).(Sm108)

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Posted by: Eric Browett (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2024 17:55

Think it was the physio/medic who was on and off. Left his scissors behind on the pitch on one occasion as I recall.

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Posted by: Rolls (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2024 11:11

Might be wrong but I think it was the Bologna physio who was Super Mario, I’ve cross checked with my mates who all attended the away game and we all agree. The European away games were great, does anyone remember the Spartacus calls at Rome? Wonderful!

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Posted by: AlanE2 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2024 16:14

Quote:
Rolls
Might be wrong but I think it was the Bologna physio who was Super Mario, I’ve cross checked with my mates who all attended the away game and we all agree. The European away games were great, does anyone remember the Spartacus calls at Rome? Wonderful!

Thanks, Rolls. You could well be right; that was a high-scoring match as well iirc. In any event - a happy memory, for me and it would seem for others as well.

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Posted by: Kevetty (IP Logged)
Date: 13/11/2024 18:45

Just watched the highlights on the Captains Run and it was noticeable how sparse the crowd was. We were two culprits having watched England playing the Aussies, we decide that the timing of the game was not conducive to driving to the ground. If it had been played on a Sunday we would have attended.

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Posted by: The Bard (IP Logged)
Date: 13/11/2024 19:58

Considering the time and circumstances of the match the crowd didn’t seem bad and the atmosphere was pretty good.

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