Danny Care Out of World Cup

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Toe injury needs surgery

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Not good. With BY injured/lacking form and RW not good enough, we are in trouble (which to be fair we were anyway).

Huge blow for Danny and huge blow for England

absolutely gutted for the fella

Gutted for Danny. Hope he makes a speedy recovery.

He's been playing well too. Probably the only guy in a white shirt on Saturday who could hold his head up at the end of the game. Gutted for him.

Poor sod. A blow for England given Youngs' backward step and Wigglesworth's dismal showing in the first part of the Wales game.

O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

Another player broken by England - gutted for him

Gutted for the lad

Damn.....so sorry for Danny. Hope you recover soon, and bring home the RWC in 2015, you will still be in your twenties.

On the plus side, don't think there is any chance he would have been bringing home a winners medal, England are not good enough.

And.........we might have a fit Danny playing for us throughout October!

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Another player broken by England

Shouldn't that be Wales?

Anyway, really back luck for Danny. He must be absolutely gutted.

BB



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Unlucky DC. Feel very disappointed for you.

The game's afoot;
Follow your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry — God for Harry! England and Saint George

England and Harlequins scrum half Danny Care sustained an injury to his left big toe joint in last weekend’s fixture against Wales and, after scans and specialist opinions, will undergo surgery this week.

Recovery time is anticipated to be a minimum of six weeks and therefore Danny is ruled out of the initial 30 man Rugby World Cup squad to be announced on Monday 22nd August.

Speaking on the news, England Team Manager, Martin Johnson said: “We are all hugely disappointed for Danny who has worked extremely hard and has been an important part of the squad throughout our Rugby World Cup preparations.

"He featured in both warm-up fixtures and was on course for selection so this injury is really disappointing for him personally and for us as a squad. Nobody wants to see a player ruled out at this stage through injury and we all wish Danny a speedy recovery.

“In terms of our selection options we are fortunate to have depth at nine with Ben Youngs, now back into full training, Joe Simpson and Richard Wigglesworth. These guys have all been part of the Rugby World Cup camp and will be considered ahead of the final 30 man squad announced on Monday.”

ANDRE VOS/DAVID WILSON/NICK EVANS ARE HARLEQUIN LEGENDS

Thank you so much for reposting what's at the top of the thread, TBE

O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

Sorry to hear this.
Hope he recovers soon.

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Thank you so much for reposting what's at the top of the thread, TBE

Your so welcome!

ANDRE VOS/DAVID WILSON/NICK EVANS ARE HARLEQUIN LEGENDS

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Jammy Git
Thank you so much for reposting what's at the top of the thread, TBE

Terribly Bad Editing

The game's afoot;
Follow your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry — God for Harry! England and Saint George

I am gutted for Danny for several reasons. Firstly because he deserves a place in the England squad and secondly because he signed a ball for my little boy in the Quins shop just before Christmas and following DC in the world cup would've gone a long way to indoctrinating my little boy to become a Quin's fan ( rather than a football oik )

Bad news all round.

Even if Ben Youngs is match fit and at the top of his game again by the World Cup (and that's a big if) he still has games where he is pure awful and loses control ( Vs Ireland in Six nations for example) and that's when Danny Care steps in a grasps the game back..

Having said that, even if Ben Youngs is match fit I still think Danny deserved a place ahead of him anyway.

All I can say is atleast he's young and has a few more World Cups for him to go to in his time.

Gutted for DC.
bad news for England, don't think any of the others have put there hands up for a starting place. Youngs can't be truly match fit, Wigglesworth looked hopeless last week. Oh dear

Danny is a legend. We are all gutted in this household. An England team without Danny has no real hope!

Sorry for your man. Happenned to Harry Ellis in 2007 too.

If his re-hab goes well i notice the England management only mentioned the initial squad, so who knows, he could yet make a late call-up if others are unfortunate too.

England without Danny Care is like a broken pencil - pointless!

i feel really sorry for care but it does give a chance for Simpson FINALY. Us Wasps fan delighted that Simpson can finally prove his quality but we are very bias.

Whats your views on Simpson?

Dont think he's quite there yet but he deserves a shot and should have been part of the warm up games.

Good luck to him

Simpson is an exaggeration version of Youngs + Care - absolutely lethal on the break but has problems with the basics. Always seems to break, too (admittedly it has happened against us more often than not).

At least he has experience playing behind a beaten pack, like Danny.

O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

My feelings on this? The same response Blackadder gives to Captain Redbeard Rum on having found out Rum doesn't know the way to France either.

As to Simpson, fast, pacy, speedy, pass is OK, not great at controlling a pack, should have been given a run out at some stage before now.

Gutted for Danny, still a chance as said of him being called up later.
I would be looking at Lee Dickson if I was MJ

Nunquam Dormio

None of the others were a cert before Danny pulled out, a real shame.

If we're going to the world cup with youngs as first choice scrum half, we are going to struggle. The guy has lost it recently and IMO Care was our starter. Would like to see Simpson get a go, but he doesn't fit into johnson's plans for England given the way they play.

I feel very sorry for Danny, poor lad.

I wouldn't write off Youngs yet. He may have had some dodgy games this season but he has shown that he is top quality when on form and behind a decent pack.

Poor danny - and in a pointless game
- poor England
England to finish 6th in RWC

on on quins

I genuinely feel for the guy. To get so close to a RWC and get an Injury one game before the plane leaves is devastating. And, lets face it, he would probably have been pencilled in to start the first game. No one deserves that kind of misfortune. I don't particularly like Danny Care, but he didn't deserve that!

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He's been playing well too. Probably the only guy in a white shirt on Saturday who could hold his head up at the end of the game. Gutted for him.

Bit unfair on the tight five, but yes it is a huge shame.

Very bad luck Danny. You would have been a great asset to the England guys and there was always the possibility (think positive everyone!) of coming home with a medal.

Good pack Rubbish backs change centers who just beat us the week before .[wales]

Really sorry to hear this news - he is a big loss to England, and it's very hard on him indeed. He's a nice guy too - took the time out to talk to my 9 year old son at a charity event the other day and was charming. Thanks for that, Danny, and all the best for a speedy recovery - and early appearance back for Quins (and England).

Joe Simpson is a good player - lacks some of the all round skills of the others I think but his pace is a genuine threat. Good luck to him if he goes.

World Cup - Care 'devastated' by World Cup blow

[uk.eurosport.yahoo.com]

Danny Care has admitted he is "absolutely devastated" after being ruled out of World Cup contention just five days before England boss Martin Johnson names his squad.

The Harlequins scrum-half was rated as a certainty to feature among Johnson's 30-man party that will head to New Zealand on August 29.

But 24-year-old Care will undergo surgery on Thursday to repair a damaged joint in his left big toe suffered during last Saturday's defeat against World Cup warm-up opponents Wales at the Millennium Stadium. Care said on Twitter: "Absolutely devastated about my injury, but in the best hands for my op."

England's medical staff anticipate that Care, who has won 32 caps, will be sidelined for six weeks. With Johnson confident that last season's Six Nations number nine Ben Youngs will be fit and available after having a knee operation earlier this summer, it leaves Saracens' Richard Wigglesworth in pole position to join Youngs at the World Cup.

Johnson must then decide whether to name a third scrum-half - Wasps' Joe Simpson - or maximise the versatility of a player like full-back Ben Foden, who has played Premiership rugby in the number nine position.

He added: "Wish the lads all the best to hopefully win the World Cup!! Thank you so much to everyone for your kind messages, helping me getting through this tough time. Supposedly everything happens for a reason?"

And Wigglesworth was one of the first to offer his condolences to Care, tweeting: "Gutted for Danny. Spoke to him yesterday. Worst timing possible. Big loss to the squad as a player and a person."

Care is the first player to be sidelined from Johnson's squad selection plans for a tournament that England kick off against Argentina in Dunedin on September 10. Johnson said: "We are all hugely disappointed for Danny, who has worked extremely hard and has been an important part of the squad throughout our Rugby World Cup preparations.

"He featured in both warm-up fixtures (against Wales) and was on course for selection, so this injury is really disappointing for him personally and for us as a squad. Nobody wants to see a player ruled out at this stage through injury, and we all wish Danny a speedy recovery.

"In terms of our selection options we are fortunate to have depth at nine with Ben Youngs, now back into full training, Joe Simpson and Richard Wigglesworth. These guys have all been part of the Rugby World Cup camp and will be considered ahead of the final 30-man squad announced on Monday."

Just spotted this on the official RFU Twitter Feed:

"SQUAD UPDATE: Danny Care has been ruled out of the RWC after injuring his toe joint against Wales and will undergo surgery this week"

"Johno on DC: "We are all hugely disappointed for Danny who has worked extremely hard and has been an important part of the squad.""

Am gutted for him as the RWC is the biggest stage for any Rugby player. Here's hoping that he gets even better as a Scrummy in time to shine here in 4 Years.

England and Harlequins scrum half Danny Care sustained an injury to his left big toe joint in last weekend’s fixture against Wales and, after scans and specialist opinions, will undergo surgery this week.

Recovery time is anticipated to be a minimum of six weeks and therefore Danny is ruled out of the initial 30 man Rugby World Cup squad to be announced on Monday 22nd August.

Speaking on the news, England Team Manager, Martin Johnson said: “We are all hugely disappointed for Danny who has worked extremely hard and has been an important part of the squad throughout our Rugby World Cup preparations.

"He featured in both warm-up fixtures and was on course for selection so this injury is really disappointing for him personally and for us as a squad. Nobody wants to see a player ruled out at this stage through injury and we all wish Danny a speedy recovery.

“In terms of our selection options we are fortunate to have depth at nine with Ben Youngs, now back into full training, Joe Simpson and Richard Wigglesworth. These guys have all been part of the Rugby World Cup camp and will be considered ahead of the final 30 man squad announced on Monday.”

ANDRE VOS/DAVID WILSON/NICK EVANS ARE HARLEQUIN LEGENDS

Absolutley gutted to hear this, really feel for Danny, great player, works hard, and a really nice bloke too

He is my 9 yr old lad's hero,even more so after he briefly met Danny a couple of weeks ago, I dont dare tell him the news yet......

Gutted for DC. He's been playing really well and deserved the starting berth. England will feel the loss greatly IMO. On a similar note, Juan Smith is out of the RWC too. The big difference being that DC will be around for the next RWC. The shame is that we all watch the RWC to see the top players at the height of their game. Sadly, injuries seem to happen at the worst times.

Can't believe it so soon after posts about him trying to get the starting shirt. I like Wiggs style but didn't look too good, never rated Simpson apart from his speed, Youngs coming back from surgery.....oh dear.

I really dislike the use of the word gutted in this context but still each to his own.

Tough luck Danny - here's to a speedy recovery. It's a real shame as you were looking like the clear first choice on merit and adding some genuine threat to a back line that too often looks leaden.

It's a difficult choice for Johnno - Youngs, in uncertain form and just back from injury; Wigglesworth, steady but not spectacular; Simpson, lots of potential but untried. The selection for Ireland will be quite telling.

I guess that's life, and part and parcel of elite sport...

a huge loss to England and a massive disappointment for Danny who through a fantastic attitude and a real improvement in form had ear
ned the England No 9 shirt. Hope he recovers quickly and gets back at his best for Quins and England asap to show the world his is a true quality player as all Quins fans already know.

Good luck Danny on your rehab

that really is hard luck! Doubt the promise of 2015 is much of a consolation. Still, you were definitely the best No 9 in 2011 Danny!

Some nice words from Mick Cleary
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Nicksb
England without Danny Care is like a broken pencil - pointless!

Strange, not your opinion on other threads!

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Date: 08 August, 2011 16:29


Care is very good at not bringing his club form to an England shirt!

Hard luck, Danny.

Elsewhere, I hope there are still some Quins fans left after this sudden attack of mass-evisceration and disembowlment...

I'm sure it is very difficult for him to stomach...

The game's afoot;
Follow your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry — God for Harry! England and Saint George

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Care is very good at not bringing his club form to an England shirt!

...or is it that England are very good at adopting a gameplan that doesn't make the best use of Danny?

Danny's not a conventional "boss the pack and pass" scrum half - he cops plenty of criticism for his pass, but his ability to break and his kicking offset that - as long as he's allowed to do it.

The England of 2009/10 seemed to have ordered him to play conventionally, and it didn't suit him. Since the AIs, England have played a more expansive game that's given him much more freedom to run, and he has looked all the better for it. In fact, I'd say that given the lack of creativity in the centres, DC is important to the overall England game because he keeps the opposition guessing.

I agree with poorfour entirely.

I was in fact quoting from a post in another thread by nicksb whom seemed to think that DC's form didn't transfer well to the England setup.

Thats because it mostly hasn't.

Glad to hear that Danny's op went well today

Real shame, given the graft he's put in over the summer. Damned bad luck. It's happened before to others, and it'll happen again, but that doesn't make it any easier for him. We wish him a speedy recovery.

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