Top half finish is do-able


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By WW
March 15 2019

Yorkshire Carnegie has a weekend off. The lads will either be  chilling or watching the climax to the 6-Nations competition. Last weekend the squad gave the runaway league leaders a bloody nose. What is in store for us next?

Well the club is still in 10th position in the league table. However the last 5 fixtures are all winnable, especially after the squad got close to reaching it's potential in the win against the Irish Exiles. If we win all 5 remaining fixtures without any bonus points we will finish with 55 points.

The four teams immediately above us all have a tough run in:

Nottingham: Could lose v Irish, Coventry and Ealing picking up 8 points in their last 5 games and will finish with 51 points.

Donny:  Could lose against Irish and Carnegie picking up 14 points and ending the season with 50 points.

Coventry: Could  lose against Ealing, Carnegie, Irish and Jersey, picking up 5 points and totalling 44 points.

Scottish: Could lose against Carnegie, Donny  & Pirates  gaining 6 points and finishing with 42 points.

We can even afford to lose a game and still finish above Donny providing that we pick up some bonus points along the way. If we lose 2 out of 5 then the most we can get is 52 points which could still get us home in 6th place.

Obviously our form has been patchy with recent defeats at home against  Ealing and Jersey but we have shown that on our day we are as good as anyone. The players, I am sure, will want to end the season on a high. Sixth place is up for grabs in my opinion. Carpe diem!

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Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: TykesRugby.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2019 08:38

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2019 10:46

If we can lift ourselves as we did for Irish most teams in the champ would struggle against us. Mid table and preferably above donny is definitely do able.
It's the aggression and intensity we played with that I liked the best.
I am gonna try my best to drag a few others along to the remaining games.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2019 14:40

Quote:
JDH1
.... Mid table and preferably above donny is definitely do able......

I like your thinking JDH1

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 17/03/2019 17:06

We need to demonstrate that the LI performance was not a one-off, and mid-table should be achieved IMHO.


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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 20/03/2019 08:17

After Stirlo's post in the "Rumour mill" thread is anyone betting against a top 6 finish to the season?

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 22/03/2019 08:12

One feature of the team room at Kirkstall is a shot of a mountain overprinted with target League points to be aimed for starting from the New Year. To be on target with three games remaining Carnegie need only two points from next two games!

The team performance in 2019 shows the remarkable progress this group have made in since the end of 2018.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 22/03/2019 15:46

Quote:
almostatyke
We need to demonstrate that the LI performance was not a one-off, and mid-table should be achieved IMHO.

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Um - one word. Bedford

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: opuscoitus (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 15:38

1st half bonus point in the bag

Keep going boys

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 15:50

Yep - no let up.

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: opuscoitus (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 16:53

Cracking result up to 7th

Well played fellas

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 16:55

20-42 final score (Sm134)

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 18:39

Great result that. Not an easy place to go. Well done guys.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 19:13

Great result to read as I sip Madiera wine, in...... Madiera!

I wasn't born in Yorkshire but I got here as soon as I could

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2019 23:20

If we get much higher in the league we will all be getting nosebleeds.

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Knavesmire (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2019 08:09

Having not seen Carnegie for awhile I was pleasantly surprised to see a few things I haven't seen for while:

- A strong defence. Until the last 15 Scots were not getting over the gainline (though their 15 was a useful player who broke first tackle several times)


- A 9 and 10 who could orchestrate a game plan


- A set of decent forwards


Given what is going on in the background someone or someones must be doing something right at long last.


I almost felt.....what was....it has been awhile....proud.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: yeldor (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2019 08:23

Quote:
Knavesmire
Having not seen Carnegie for awhile I was pleasantly surprised to see a few things I haven't seen for while:
- A strong defence. Until the last 15 Scots were not getting over the gainline (though their 15 was a useful player who broke first tackle several times)


- A 9 and 10 who could orchestrate a game plan


- A set of decent forwards


Given what is going on in the background someone or someones must be doing something right at long last.


I almost felt.....what was....it has been awhile....proud.



The someone is Chris Stirling the someoneís is the coaching staff heís assembled.


Lose them we are .............insert your own expletive.

Goís without saying lose the players and you can insert more expletives.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2019 16:30

Looks like we will only be 3 points behind Nottingham at close of play today.(losing heavily at home to Richmond!). Top six even more of a proposition now although we do not need others help to achieve it.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2019 20:48

I think the bits between everyone's teeth. The team, the fans, will all fired up for next weekend!

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 07:33

Surprisingly Richmond won at Nottingham yesterday. Next weekend Nottingham is at Ealing. If we continue in our current vein of form we could be 6th by the end of March!

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: opuscoitus (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 08:02

Lads clearly have bit between the teeth and have clearly set a goal of finishing as high as possible, the form they are showing all remaining 4 games are winnable with BP as with exception of Hartpury all other 3 form isnít great

Pirates 5th spot is there for the taking

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Wildwillie (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 12:37

Quote:
opuscoitus
...Pirates 5th spot is there for the taking

I was just thinking the same.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 13:22

More so if we can turn them over at The Mennaye on Easter Sunday.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: opuscoitus (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 14:56

Quote:
Wildwillie
Quote:
opuscoitus
...Pirates 5th spot is there for the taking

I was just thinking the same.

Pirates have left

Irish and Us at Home
Scottish and Donny away

9 Points behind

and are certainly not a bad team but in a bit of a rut


If as we all expect the lads are really up for the run in then not a unrealistic target

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: sheffieldsmills (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 20:14

A fantastic result for the lads & coaches.
Followed it on twitter, seen the highlights & never in doubt.

They are together & determined. Correct me if I'm wrong Opus but didn't we loose there last year, shocking performance?

This group of lads, Nottingham no problem, Pirates very do able.
as said in a rut, didn't look that great against Bedford.

Go get em.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: opuscoitus (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 20:51

[youtu.be]

Found highlights if anyone interested

Lots of forward grunt in that 5mins

More of the same Sunday please

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 21:12

Looks like a solid performance. Not been to LS but it does bring it home that most champ teams play on what looks like a park.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Tyko (IP Logged)
Date: 25/03/2019 21:31

Quote:
JDH1
Looks like a solid performance. Not been to LS but it does bring it home that most champ teams play on what looks like a park.

There is a pretty decent stand on one side. with a nice bar and cafe under. Food's good too.
But nothing at all on three sides.

Directly under flightpath for Heathrow if you like planes. Which I do (Sm11)

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2019 07:59

Love Richmond/LS for what Tyko said. We forego our bacon sandwich ritual when we visit or we've no room for their top nosh.

Not seen any planes fly over the last few visits - they're usually that close you can see up the pilots' nostrils.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2019 09:17

Perfect example of how busy Heathrow is when you can see a whole line of planes on final approach stretching into distance.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2019 20:25

All good rugby stadiums are on a flight path.....


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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2019 21:37

Driven past the Richmond ground a few times. I like some of the more club feel grounds. It does bring it home the gap between the champ and prem though. Some champ grounds are on par or worse that some Yorkshire league grounds.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
Date: 27/03/2019 06:05

You should read the discussion about Ampthill's ground on the Rolling Maul forum! (They are favourites to come up from Nat 1.)

If I had all the money I've spent on drink ..... I'd spend it on drink.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: WPL (IP Logged)
Date: 27/03/2019 08:27

I love when visiting some of the grounds in the championship, trips to Old Deer Park on a early or late season game in the sun...If anyone wants to know what it's like - think West Park with the clubhouse further away from the pitch

Unfortunately it does make a very convenient criteria for the premiership to ALREADY be ring fenced by things like this! I think I read somewhere that the Bedford chairmen looked at what it would cost to get their ground up to premiership standard, stopped counting at several million pounds and that's before they worked out how to solve the leveling of their pitch (6ft drop diagonally)

Back on the topic of the thread, having seen the game on TV this weekend, our current form is much better than either team I know there is a lot of what and ifs - the nature of sport - but if we had this team at the start of the year, I honestly don't think we would be talking about top half I think we would be talking about our results vs Irish and could we go up!

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Tyko (IP Logged)
Date: 27/03/2019 10:57

Quote:
WPL
Back on the topic of the thread, having seen the game on TV this weekend, our current form is much better than either team I know there is a lot of what and ifs - the nature of sport - but if we had this team at the start of the year, I honestly don't think we would be talking about top half I think we would be talking about our results vs Irish and could we go up!

Providing we can meet the stadium criteria (Sm100)

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 17:54

We are now 6th but more work to be done to ensure we do not slip away in the final three matches.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Grybz (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 19:11

I am not going to criticise the board, itís their money and Iím not convinced rugby is an investment itís more of a tax write off, but I agree with WPL, if CS had been backed at the start of the season I think the results from the last half show we could have been real contenders for top flight rugby next season. If only.....

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 19:23

Agreed Grybz but coming second to LI or running Ealing close for third does not actually achieve a lot.
However I suppose our personal grief at watching the poor performances at the start of the season would have been avoided.

Also agreed lets not criticise board members who have all put their hand in their pocket to pay our players' salaries. OK we wish it was more but as I haven't contributed any cash at all, I feel it rude to criticise those who have.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Grybz (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 19:57

On the other hand, and trying to retain a positive note, having stood freezing my nuts off watching some real dross in the first half of the season makes recent events on the pitch seem all the more sweet!



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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: almostatyke (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 20:18

We have had a lot of false dawns. Quite often, promises have been half-kept, at best.
We have had highly respected coaches in Brian Redpath and Jimmy Lowes.
But Stirlo has been the only one to say what is going to happen and then deliver 100%. Even when things were going awry and we were losing to pretty poor teams.

For the first time I am watching a team playing a type of rugby that you might watch in the Premiership or the 6Nations. OK we are not at that level but at least we are playing in a style that can take us forward.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: JDH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2019 20:18

Water under the bridge now but irish will be the worst team to get out of the champ for a while to come.

Another solid display today. Well done guys

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Scuffer (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2019 15:57

The transformation since Christmas is astounding and CS always said it would happen. The recent form and confidence the team is showing has totally changed the experience on match days to a pleasurable one and it is such a shame that more people have not turned up to watch. It'll be gutting if the whole thing goes pear shaped at the end of the season at a time when we are obviously on a steep upward curve. I heard yesterday that CS is already talking about returning to New Zealand in the Rugby Paper so there doesn't seem to be much hope left and one wonders if there will be a club left to support next season?

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Gelbel (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2019 14:50

Quote:
Scuffer
I heard yesterday that CS is already talking about returning to New Zealand in the Rugby Paper so there doesn't seem to be much hope left and one wonders if there will be a club left to support next season?

The words used were 'who could be heading home to New Zealand once the season ends'. Not a quote from Chris - speculation from the journo.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Tower (IP Logged)
Date: 03/04/2019 18:28

I really hope that is fake news about Chris Stirling returning to New Zealand.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Madtyke (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2019 00:16

Why wouldn't he head home to see his family atbthe end of the season, everyone deserves a holiday.

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Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Scuffer (IP Logged)
Date: 04/04/2019 19:58

I sincerely hope it is merely speculation Gelbel because he is such an asset and seems to have breathed new life into the club with his outlook, general demeanour and the way he has galvanised the team. I am generally a ďglass half fullĒ person but I canít help thinking that things are about to go pear shaped in the absence of any updates to the contrary from the clubís senior management.

Re: Top half finish is do-able
Posted by: Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
Date: 15/04/2019 15:20

Additional incentive for two remaining games could be to wipe out negative points difference which currently stands at -71. That would further underline comeback from status at ten games in.

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