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At last
Posted by: daktari (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 09:51

Hotel and car park building beginning 23rd March

Re: At last
Posted by: GT1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 10:06

A very positive sign imho
What it's actually costing the club would be interesting to know & how it goes with the sale of the club(if it's still for sale?)
So when finished we will have a set up the envy of all the others(bar from the crumbie stand) well done everyone involved!!

Re: At last
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 10:43

Good news

Re: At last
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 10:55

Positive news for us.

Re: At last
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 14:11

Good news. Hopefully positive in and of itself and also in terms of the sale.

But let's get the core business sorted eh?



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Re: At last
Posted by: Tom Paine (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 16:03

Hope they don't forget to include some presidential suites for the Guernsey oligarchs.

Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 20:22

Quote:
GT1
A very positive sign imho
What it's actually costing the club would be interesting to know & how it goes with the sale of the club(if it's still for sale?)
So when finished we will have a set up the envy of all the others(bar from the crumbie stand) well done everyone involved!!

Last I heard, the hotel will cost the club nothing. They are leasing the site to a developer who will invest to create the hotel that they then rent out/lease to a hotel operator. Tigers will receive a ground rent and will control the site. I assume that the site and whatever stands upon it will revert to Tigers on a future date.

The car park is being built using a (bank) loan which they will repay using the income received from the deal struck with the hospital to provide staff parking. So really the car park is not costing the club anything either as it is self funding. And eventually, when the loan is paid off (20 years?), the car park will provide the club with an income.

As both will be/are assets of the club then one would assume both will be part of any sale?

Problem with redeveloping the Crumblie remains that capacity will be reduced.



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Re: At last
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 20:36

Would it be technically possible to leave the existing terrace untouched and only redevelop from the tunnel upward and thus circumvent redevelopment rules?

Re: At last
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 20:44

Quote:
Yorkie
Quote:
GT1
A very positive sign imho
What it's actually costing the club would be interesting to know & how it goes with the sale of the club(if it's still for sale?)
So when finished we will have a set up the envy of all the others(bar from the crumbie stand) well done everyone involved!!

Last I heard, the hotel will cost the club nothing. They are leasing the site to a developer who will invest to create the hotel that they then rent out/lease to a hotel operator. Tigers will receive a ground rent and will control the site. I assume that the site and whatever stands upon it will revert to Tigers on a future date.

The car park is being built using a (bank) loan which they will repay using the income received from the deal struck with the hospital to provide staff parking. So really the car park is not costing the club anything either as it is self funding. And eventually, when the loan is paid off (20 years?), the car park will provide the club with an income.

As both will be/are assets of the club then one would assume both will be part of any sale?

Problem with redeveloping the Crumblie remains that capacity will be reduced.

Wasn't this sort of expenditure supposed to be what Scott was going to fund?



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Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 21:52

Quote:
Stopsy
Would it be technically possible to leave the existing terrace untouched and only redevelop from the tunnel upward and thus circumvent redevelopment rules?

You can't seat as many people in proper seats as you can on wooden benches. Terrace not the issue.



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Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 21:56

Quote:
Rich W
Quote:
Yorkie
Quote:
GT1
A very positive sign imho
What it's actually costing the club would be interesting to know & how it goes with the sale of the club(if it's still for sale?)
So when finished we will have a set up the envy of all the others(bar from the crumbie stand) well done everyone involved!!

Last I heard, the hotel will cost the club nothing. They are leasing the site to a developer who will invest to create the hotel that they then rent out/lease to a hotel operator. Tigers will receive a ground rent and will control the site. I assume that the site and whatever stands upon it will revert to Tigers on a future date.

The car park is being built using a (bank) loan which they will repay using the income received from the deal struck with the hospital to provide staff parking. So really the car park is not costing the club anything either as it is self funding. And eventually, when the loan is paid off (20 years?), the car park will provide the club with an income.

As both will be/are assets of the club then one would assume both will be part of any sale?

Problem with redeveloping the Crumblie remains that capacity will be reduced.

Wasn't this sort of expenditure supposed to be what Scott was going to fund?

It was said Scott would invest in the infrastructure of the club yes but the hotel and car park are self funding. Some of his cash paid for the Cat stand. Not sure re Nottm stand and Granby Halls site purchase but assume he's put his hand in his pocket somewhere along the line? A lot has been spent at Oval Park too recently hasn't it?



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Re: At last
Posted by: Dreadnought (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 22:25

Quote:
Yorkie
Quote:
Rich W
Quote:
Yorkie
Quote:
GT1
A very positive sign imho
What it's actually costing the club would be interesting to know & how it goes with the sale of the club(if it's still for sale?)
So when finished we will have a set up the envy of all the others(bar from the crumbie stand) well done everyone involved!!

Last I heard, the hotel will cost the club nothing. They are leasing the site to a developer who will invest to create the hotel that they then rent out/lease to a hotel operator. Tigers will receive a ground rent and will control the site. I assume that the site and whatever stands upon it will revert to Tigers on a future date.

The car park is being built using a (bank) loan which they will repay using the income received from the deal struck with the hospital to provide staff parking. So really the car park is not costing the club anything either as it is self funding.

And eventually, when the loan is paid off (20 years?), the car park will provide the club with an income.

As both will be/are assets of the club then one would assume both will be part of any sale?

Problem with redeveloping the Crumblie remains that capacity will be reduced.

Wasn't this sort of expenditure supposed to be what Scott was going to fund?

It was said Scott would invest in the infrastructure of the club yes but the hotel and car park are self funding. Some of his cash paid for the Cat stand. Not sure re Nottm stand and Granby Halls site purchase but assume he's put his hand in his pocket somewhere along the line? A lot has been spent at Oval Park too recently hasn't it?

Tigers have actually saved a fortune by upgrading Oval Park because they had purchased ex rugby club land in Leicester in anticipation of moving out of Oval Park. They have now sold the land with planning permission.

Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 07 February, 2020 22:49

Taken up an option to purchase the old Stoneygate RFC ground which they made some cash from when they stepped aside so a house builder could purchase. Tigers never had the cash to buy it and to then develop it as a training ground along with other cash demands such as the new pitch and Granby Halls purchase. I believe relations with Oadby Wigs are better nowadays so need to move has subsided.



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Re: At last
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 09:39

I was thinking along the lines of avoiding sections on the terrace which I understand weíll have to do if we renew it

Re: At last
Posted by: IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 13:01

The terrace could still be used while they rebuild the seating area, with 500 less seats but it is not a priority while it continues to get the safety certificate

Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 18:35

When the terrace/stand gets redone, H&S will demand pens for terrace.

When the Cat stand was built, iirc, the plan was to move the pitch several metres towards it when the Crumblie was redeveloped. So terrace will be rebuilt?



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Re: At last
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 18:40

Grumpy

Re: At last
Posted by: melton tiger (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 18:45

Just put a new roof on the Crumbie and leave it as it is apart from that. We donít need any more posh seats we just need a covered terrace.

Re: At last
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 18:47

Until it doesn't get its safety certificate for being wooden!

And can the existing structure support a bigger/higher roof?



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Re: At last
Posted by: melton tiger (IP Logged)
Date: 08 February, 2020 19:07

Quote:
melton tiger
Just put a new roof on the Crumbie and leave it as it is apart from that. We donít need any more posh seats we just need a covered terrace.

Possibly be feasible to cantilever a roof without structural impact on existing structure

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