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Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 09:24


Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: PrestonTiger (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 09:40

Interesting about the furlough payments.

Is training 'working. Usually you'd think 'yes'. It certainly would be if there was an 'industrial injury'

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Brownian Motion (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 09:58

Anything that involves your job, potentially even just a phone call, is work and breaking the terms of the furlough scheme.

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Rich. (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 10:02

The following quote from the article suggests no rules broken (guidelines only) -
A PRL spokesperson said: 'Our current guidance to our clubs is not to resume training.'

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 10:31

Being one does not preclude it being the other.



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Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 10:50

In general you can undertake training in terms of gaining new skills as long as those are not deployed to the benefit of the entity during furlough. Attending briefings/calls/ check email is allowed but again no profit generating activity.

Training for rugby players is part of their day to day role and as such I'd say contravenes the furlough scheme.

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 10:53

As Mr. S says, training for a rugby player represents a large part of his "normal" job activity and so I'd say breaks the furlough scheme conditions.

Unless they were training at/for another club?



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Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Rich. (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 11:03

Quote:
Stopsy
In general you can undertake training in terms of gaining new skills as long as those are not deployed to the benefit of the entity during furlough. Attending briefings/calls/ check email is allowed but again no profit generating activity.
Training for rugby players is part of their day to day role and as such I'd say contravenes the furlough scheme.

Not quite like that with training and furlough. Any training is likely to benefit the employer to some extent. Gov.uk wording is:

You can undertake training or volunteer subject to public health guidance, as long as you’re not:

- making money for your employer or a company linked or associated to your employer
- providing services to your employer or a company linked or associated to your employer
- furloughed by your employer and volunteering for them in a different role

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: tigerburnie (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 11:46

The cynic in me sees this as Dimes trying to steal a march on everyone else fitness and training wise to give Sale an edge. I wonder if any of them even thought about the furlough rules.

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: John Tee (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 19:45

They are working...no furlough, pay them.
Jeez... join the queue to mug the tax payer...

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 19:52

Perhaps Dimes isn't as daft as some thought he was

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Yorkie (IP Logged)
Date: 19 May, 2020 21:50

Quote:
IDLETIMES
Perhaps Dimes isn't as daft as some thought he was

No-one could be that daft though!!

Very cynical but also maybe a total waste of time with no start to the season agreed yet.



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Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 08:07

Agree. Yorkie. football say they are going to start training in 'small groups' but what if one in any of these small groups has the virus?.

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Chris1850 (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 08:54

Quote:
IDLETIMES
Perhaps Dimes isn't as daft as some thought he was

Diamond may be many things but one thing he is not is daft

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 09:16

Quote:
IDLETIMES
Agree. Yorkie. football say they are going to start training in 'small groups' but what if one in any of these small groups has the virus?.

That would be why they do so in small groups.



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Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 09:34

But what exactly is a small group and you could have a small group with one affected or a large group with none affected. Its a bit like limiting crowds to 500 and saying 501 would be dangerous

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 09:36

No it isn't - it's about creating silos.



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Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 09:53

In a small group you limit the spread to say 5, with a larger group it can spread to a larger number, PhD in rocket science unnecessary at this point.

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 10:22

But if just one had it wouldn't they have to isolate the whole squad

Re: Sale- clever or callous?
Posted by: Tiggs (IP Logged)
Date: 20 May, 2020 10:26

This is rocket science [www.grc.nasa.gov]



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