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World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Sara'sman (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 12:45

Preliminary, with Top 4 players tba later (additional Glaws/Saints added):

Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks)
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby)
Elliot Daly (Saracens)
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers)
Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs) *
Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby)
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)

Piers Francis (Northampton Saints
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
Ben Teo (-)
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)

Danny Cipriani (Gloucester Rugby)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)

Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby)
Dan Robson (Wasps)
Ben Spencer (Saracens)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
14

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs)
Val Rapava Ruskin (Gloucester Rugby)
Nick Schonert (Worcester Warriors)
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs)

Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)
Jamie George (Saracens)
Jack Singleton (Saracens)

Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)
Maro Itoje (Saracens)
George Kruis (Saracens)
Joe Launchbury (Wasps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)

Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints)
Brad Shields (Wasps)
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)
Mark Wilson (Sale Sharks)
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We've got two (now 9 - still 9!) already. Notable absentees: Care, Robshaw, Hughes, Hartley, (Marler), Morgan.

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Looking at the RFU/Premiership rugby player rest accord press release they're not super clear on post world cup rest (although obviously winning the thing would put a lot of games on your 'maximum for the season' clock.

The fudge on player welfare continues:

"According to protocols agreed with the Rugby Players' Association, all players are guaranteed a five-week rest after the end of their season. However, Ludlam and Rapava Ruskin both featured in the Premiership semi-finals, while Dombrandt and fly-half Marcus Smith - who is also named - were involved in an England XV against the Barbarians on 2 June. The RFU say these players will have their workload monitored to ensure the correct rest periods are fulfilled." From the beeb



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Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: nicsue (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 13:17

Did I read somewhere that Duncan Taylor is already training with the Scotland squad?

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Sara'sman (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 13:45

Most likely additions (though I'd prefer Jack Yeandle over Cowan-Dickie's darts):

Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks)            Jack Nowell
Mike Brown (Harlequins)               Alex Goode
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby) 
Elliot Daly (Wasps) 
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers) 
Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby) 
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby) 

Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)          Henry Slade
Ben Teo (Worcester Warriors) 
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers) 

George Ford (Leicester Tigers)        Owen Farrell
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)             Danny Cipriani

Dan Robson (Wasps)                    Ben Spencer
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)         Willi Heinz
                                      Richard Wigglesworth

Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)           Mako Vunipola
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)        Alec Hepburn
Val Rapava Ruskin (Gloucester Rugby)  Harry Williams
Nick Schonert (Worcester Warriors)    Ben Moon
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins) 

Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)                 Jamie George
Jack Singleton (Worcester Warriors)   Luke Cowan-Dickie

Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)            George Kruis
Joe Launchbury (Wasps)                Maro Itoje
                                      Courtney Lawes
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks) 
Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins) 
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints)     Billy Vunipola
Brad Shields (Wasps)                  Matt Kvesic
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby)            Ben Morgan
Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons).      Ben Earl

Who've I missed (and I'm aware that there are 2 more to prune - probably from prop, back 3 and SH)?



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Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Static (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 15:50

I would throw Ben Earl in as a wildcard in the backrow. Don't think he will make the final list though

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 22:24

I thought the whole fuss about Cips and the baabaas game was so that his rest period could be a week shorter. Shows what I know... (E.g. how isn't Dombrant two weeks away as well!)

The players should go on strike, honestly. (and i don't blame those turning up for training early, I know what I'd do) Certainly this sort of thing isn't going to build trust if the Lions shareholders want people to move the premiership final a week earlier.

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: nedrichards (IP Logged)
Date: 20 June, 2019 22:27

(and before anyone from other areas comments, I'm aware of the times Sarries have played people like Mako during mandatory rest periods. I believe they shouldn't have)

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: GerryK (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2019 11:56

As I see it the following players are on the periphery of the squad

Ben Earl
Loz
Wiggy (wouldn't totally rule him out, there may be a need for some real experience but I accept unlikely
Goodey (maybe EJ sees the light at the last possible moment-again unlikely)

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Sara'sman (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 10:15

Koch and Brits selected for the SA Rugby Championship 26 man squad along with de Klerk and Reinach. Link

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 11:34

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Koch and Brits selected for the SA Rugby Championship 26 man squad along with de Klerk and Reinach. Link
Brits in despite Akker Van de Merwe's best efforts....

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: AlanE (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 12:09

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Koch and Brits selected for the SA Rugby Championship 26 man squad along with de Klerk and Reinach. Link
Brits in despite Akker Van de Merwe's best efforts....

I will admit I had to look that one up but having done so.....
...how did Van der Merwe only get 3 weeks for that - and what did Brits do before the clip starts to deserve 4?



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Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: JO'G (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 16:29

potentially Brits thump of Faz all those years ago made his a 2nd offence

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: AlanE (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 16:42

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JO'G
potentially Brits thump of Faz all those years ago made his a 2nd offence

Yes, could be. However, he looked more like the thumpee rather than the thumper in that video (shades of Duncan McRae on O'Gara - without so much ketchup).

But I didn't see what happened to cause the assault.



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Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Harrow Sarrie (IP Logged)
Date: 24 June, 2019 17:29

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JO'G
potentially Brits thump of Faz all those years ago made his a 2nd offence

Yes, could be. However, he looked more like the thumpee rather than the thumper in that video (shades of Duncan McRae on O'Gara - without so much ketchup).

But I didn't see what happened to cause the assault.

I haven't seen any other coverage, but the referee when discussing with his TMO and assistant clearly said Blue 2 threw the first punch.

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 25 June, 2019 19:25

Akker came out of nowhere, targeting Brits at the back of a ruck with a pretty unnecessary tackle that was borderline yellow, its then unclear who threw first whilst Akker was pinning Brits, but then he just unloads on a prone Brits. I couldn't see it as anything other than a targeted attack on a potential rival for the WC

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: JO'G (IP Logged)
Date: 26 June, 2019 14:03

i'm assuming that Brits has to be a great bet for a 3rd hooker in a limited squad as he can also cover flanker and centre

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: AP (IP Logged)
Date: 26 June, 2019 20:50

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i'm assuming that Brits has to be a great bet for a 3rd hooker in a limited squad as he can also cover flanker and centre

Not to mention full back.



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Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: GerryK (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2019 17:31

Can someone explain why Brad Shields is in the training squad. From what I have seen he is little more than a adequate club player

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Eric Browett (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2019 17:59

Agreed, I certainly wouldn't swap him for Jackson Wray, who never gets a sniff for England.

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: Sara'sman (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2019 18:26

I too agree re Shields, I've seen nothing to merit his inclusion.

Cipriani, Francis, Heinz, Lawes and Thorley added to the OP, Ash crossed out.

Re: World Cup Squad(s)
Posted by: hertsman (IP Logged)
Date: 29 June, 2019 05:44

I saw Brits play v Brumbies when they came to Oz. Just the same as always - quick feet, lots of energy, a huge smile and his trademark red scrum cap. Yep he's a year older and a little slower, and his stubble was markedly grey. But still their 1st choice hooker, and therefore could be an option for the SA squad. He looked better for his enforced rest which, according to the local press here, was longer because of his previous history. He played well individually, but in a struggling side so wasn't as effective as when he was surrounded by the tightness of Saracens.

He wins my vote in the EOS poll for favourite non-Saracens player smiling smiley

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