EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 28 November, 2019 20:31
It has been a difficult few weeks for rugby in general and supporters of Saracens in particular. Not surprisingly our message board has been dominated by multiple threads relating to the salary cap breach. Most of the comments have been polite and well-reasoned although a few have not. However it has made it difficult for Saracens’ supporters to use the Message Board in the way it was intended – to talk about our team and all matters rugby-related among ourselves.
The Mods have decided therefore that we will open THIS single, sticky Salary Cap thread. Everyone, Saracens or otherwise, is welcome to post on there about anything related to the Salary Cap breach, appeal or no appeal, mid-term audit and any other fall out. Please keep comments relevant, respectful and not repetitive. All other Salary Cap-related threads will be closed and any new ones, or salary cap posts on non-related threads, will be deleted (unless there is a new revelation deserving of its own thread!).
Thank you everyone in advance for your co-operation.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 24/01/2020 15:55 by Darraghgirl.
The Mods have decided therefore that we will open THIS single, sticky Salary Cap thread. Everyone, Saracens or otherwise, is welcome to post on there about anything related to the Salary Cap breach, appeal or no appeal, mid-term audit and any other fall out. Please keep comments relevant, respectful and not repetitive. All other Salary Cap-related threads will be closed and any new ones, or salary cap posts on non-related threads, will be deleted (unless there is a new revelation deserving of its own thread!).
Thank you everyone in advance for your co-operation.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 24/01/2020 15:55 by Darraghgirl.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: TonyTaff (IP Logged)
Date: 28 November, 2019 21:43
Roll up, roll up!
Supporters of all clubs and of none are most welcome hereon.
£721.05 (*) donated to the Saracens Foundation due to visits to the Sarries frontpage [www.rugbynetwork.net]
Please read and submit articles for publication.
(*) As at October 31, 2018.
Supporters of all clubs and of none are most welcome hereon.
£721.05 (*) donated to the Saracens Foundation due to visits to the Sarries frontpage [www.rugbynetwork.net]
Please read and submit articles for publication.
(*) As at October 31, 2018.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 29 November, 2019 08:03
Just a suggestion for the mods...if posts are deleted on other threads could the deletion include a standard note directing the poster to this thread. Otherwise there'll be people bleating that the board is just deleting all posts about the SC.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 29 November, 2019 09:16
Nah, just delete them. It's pretty clear, the first post you see on the page. If you choose to ignore it, it gets zapped! Problem will be the policing of it, the celery debate crosses over into practically any historic topic, and I don't envy you mods job!
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
Date: 29 November, 2019 17:22
We will do our best!
All the other threads are now closed (I think)
Any new ones will be closed unless they are relevant or interesting in which case I will merge them with Salary cap one.
Feel free to PM me if anyone finds an errant post I have missed
All the other threads are now closed (I think)
Any new ones will be closed unless they are relevant or interesting in which case I will merge them with Salary cap one.
Feel free to PM me if anyone finds an errant post I have missed
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: TonyTaff (IP Logged)
Date: 02 December, 2019 13:02
[www.planetrugby.com]
Take That!
£721.05 (*) donated to the Saracens Foundation due to visits to the Sarries frontpage [www.rugbynetwork.net]
Please read and submit articles for publication.
(*) As at October 31, 2018.
Take That!
£721.05 (*) donated to the Saracens Foundation due to visits to the Sarries frontpage [www.rugbynetwork.net]
Please read and submit articles for publication.
(*) As at October 31, 2018.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: 1876-Fez (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 13:45
Just in case anyone had missed Baxter's views in the T'graph yesterday..
Article below:
Rob Baxter, the Exeter director of rugby, believes that there is yet more to come from scrutiny into Saracens’ salary-cap transgressions and that a line has not yet been drawn under the matter.
The formal inquiry concluded with the European and Premiership champions being docked 35 points and fined £5.36 million for breaches of the regulations stretching back over three years.
Exeter have been denied Premiership titles by Saracens during two of those three seasons and the sense of injustice which was expressed by the club when news of the sanctions first broke in early November shows no signs of easing ahead of the first meeting between the clubs, at Sandy Park on Dec 29.
“We’ve given Saracens all the ammunition they need [with our comments] for them to come here massively psyched up,” Baxter said. “I don’t believe that a line has been drawn in the sand, not by any means, [in terms of what went on] and we are not at the end of that process. That will make it interesting [on Dec 29]. It will make it a great test for us on the field.
“I’ve moved on from worrying about any Saracens’ result because I don’t see how they mean much to anyone any more. I look at the other 10 Premiership clubs, but there is one club whose results I don’t set any store by now because we don’t know if there is any honesty behind them. There certainly hasn’t been for three years.”
Baxter used to study Saracens in detail while working to improve Exeter’s fortunes as they strove to become champions themselves.
“How Saracens play now is the least important thing for me in the Premiership,” Baxter said. “What I used to do is watch them in order to learn from it, learn how to try to beat them. Now the big lesson on how you achieve what Saracens have achieved is to be outside the rules that we are all adhering to.”
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Article below:
Rob Baxter, the Exeter director of rugby, believes that there is yet more to come from scrutiny into Saracens’ salary-cap transgressions and that a line has not yet been drawn under the matter.
The formal inquiry concluded with the European and Premiership champions being docked 35 points and fined £5.36 million for breaches of the regulations stretching back over three years.
Exeter have been denied Premiership titles by Saracens during two of those three seasons and the sense of injustice which was expressed by the club when news of the sanctions first broke in early November shows no signs of easing ahead of the first meeting between the clubs, at Sandy Park on Dec 29.
“We’ve given Saracens all the ammunition they need [with our comments] for them to come here massively psyched up,” Baxter said. “I don’t believe that a line has been drawn in the sand, not by any means, [in terms of what went on] and we are not at the end of that process. That will make it interesting [on Dec 29]. It will make it a great test for us on the field.
“I’ve moved on from worrying about any Saracens’ result because I don’t see how they mean much to anyone any more. I look at the other 10 Premiership clubs, but there is one club whose results I don’t set any store by now because we don’t know if there is any honesty behind them. There certainly hasn’t been for three years.”
Baxter used to study Saracens in detail while working to improve Exeter’s fortunes as they strove to become champions themselves.
“How Saracens play now is the least important thing for me in the Premiership,” Baxter said. “What I used to do is watch them in order to learn from it, learn how to try to beat them. Now the big lesson on how you achieve what Saracens have achieved is to be outside the rules that we are all adhering to.”
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Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: BlackheathSaracen (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 15:00
I'd expect that sort of comment from Rowe but this is just ignorant from Baxter which is unlike him.
If he really thinks there's nothing to be learnt from how Saracens play simply because of the cap overspend then he's a fool. Worse news for Chiefs he's a fool they've just signed up for another four seasons. He seems like a brilliant DoR to me and I could understand if that's his heart talking rather than head. Will be interesting to see if there is anything further to come re Saracens or if this is simply part of the narrative that Chiefs will drive from now on?
If he really thinks there's nothing to be learnt from how Saracens play simply because of the cap overspend then he's a fool. Worse news for Chiefs he's a fool they've just signed up for another four seasons. He seems like a brilliant DoR to me and I could understand if that's his heart talking rather than head. Will be interesting to see if there is anything further to come re Saracens or if this is simply part of the narrative that Chiefs will drive from now on?
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: jonnybrowne (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 16:22
For a club he no longer sees as “real”, and whose results he claims not to worry about any more, he seems all too happy to talk about us.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Banzai1314 (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 19:49
Not sure whether SimonG19 sucks lemons all day or sits on broken glass first thing in the morning just to get really angry. Either way he’s not very happy 😂
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Banzai1314 (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 19:51
Quote:Banzai1314
Not sure whether SimonG19 sucks lemons all day or sits on broken glass first thing in the morning just to get really angry. Either way he’s not very happy 😂
.... and really likes to use the word cheat, cheated or cheating.Bless.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 21:08
Quote:1876-Fez
“How Saracens play now is the least important thing for me in the Premiership,” Baxter said.
Can't say I'm over-fussed about Chiefs games either so that evens things up.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Banzai1314 (IP Logged)
Date: 13 December, 2019 22:10
If ever the boys needed something to motivate themselves for the Exeter game ,just pin this article to the changing room wall.
Thanks Rob
Thanks Rob
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 00:18
Is the daily hate making this up or is there a snitch in the camp? Like Merseyside and the S*n, just don't kids
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: myleftboot (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 01:43
Oh, and in other breaking news, the daily @#$%& lifted my comments ban, but delete any pro Sarries comment. Anyone would think they had a vested interest......
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 09:30
Quote:myleftboot
Is the daily hate making this up or is there a snitch in the camp? Like Merseyside and the S*n, just don't kids
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
What's the gist of this please? My adblocker won't let me look at the artcile, even if I turn it off for the Daily Hate site - a lucky escape maybe.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 16:08
You can temporarily switch off Adblock for a read then put it on again (there's a toggle button when you open ABP on the top bar). However the ads drive you mad and it takes forever to get anywhere while they load.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Sarriebone (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 17:01
Quote:Roger GQuote:myleftboot
Is the daily hate making this up or is there a snitch in the camp? Like Merseyside and the S*n, just don't kids
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
What's the gist of this please? My adblocker won't let me look at the artcile, even if I turn it off for the Daily Hate site - a lucky escape maybe.
Basically some players may look elsewhere if we get relegated.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: Roger G (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 18:49
Quote:tpr's headmistress
You can temporarily switch off Adblock for a read then put it on again (there's a toggle button when you open ABP on the top bar). However the ads drive you mad and it takes forever to get anywhere while they load.
As I said, that didn't work - the little button clearly said Adblock was off, but it still wouldn't show me the article. However, a kind soul has shared it with me so my curiosity is satisfied.
Re: EVERYTHING SALARYCAP RELATED
Posted by: tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:09
Sorry Roger, I didn't read your post thoroughly.
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