Luther Burrell?
Posted by: bardofavon (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 16:28

why not? the guy is giving up on league and wants to return to union. he still has a couple of years in him. we are looking for extra oomph in the 12 and 13 channels. and he will be cheap.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 16:33

Not for me. Could damage the group ethos, never much more than a good club player, body must be carrying wear and tear so lets use the developing players or bring in a long term recruit.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: woodpecker (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 16:34

Hes not in my top 50 potential signings:

Former England centre Luther Burrell is looking to switch back to rugby union after his contract with Warrington was terminated by the Super League club.

The 32-year-old joined Wire on a two-and-a-half-year deal in July 2019 after leaving Northampton Saints.

But he only played three games last season and was on the bench for the first five of this campaign.

He'll be lucky to find anything much

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: dr.bath1865 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 17:00

Here are 6 reasons why not...

Josh Matevasi, Cameron Redpath, Jonathan Joseph, Max Clarke, Max Wright, Max Ojomoh.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 17:07

Quote:
dr.bath1865
Here are 6 reasons why not...
Josh Matevasi, Cameron Redpath, Jonathan Joseph, Max Clarke, Max Wright, Max Ojomoh.

Could add Will Butt to that list.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 14 September, 2020 17:15

Quote:
dr.bath1865
Here are 6 reasons why not...
Josh Matevasi, Cameron Redpath, Jonathan Joseph, Max Clarke, Max Wright, Max Ojomoh.

I don't think we need LB - would be a bit of a throw-back to a few seasons ago when we were casting around for 15 bodies to get on the pitch at various points in various seasons. Having said that, there's only 2 of those 6 who are nailed-on to be above him in a (very long and comprehensive) all-time list of English centres.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Bath Supporter Jack (IP Logged)
Date: 15 September, 2020 13:15

No thank you

As someone above says lets look forward rather than back!

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 15 September, 2020 13:19

Quote:
Optimist
Quote:
dr.bath1865
Here are 6 reasons why not...
Josh Matevasi, Cameron Redpath, Jonathan Joseph, Max Clarke, Max Wright, Max Ojomoh.

I don't think we need LB - would be a bit of a throw-back to a few seasons ago when we were casting around for 15 bodies to get on the pitch at various points in various seasons. Having said that, there's only 2 of those 6 who are nailed-on to be above him in a (very long and comprehensive) all-time list of English centres.

Time to resign Tim Brasher ...... I still remember one of his games and while he had clearly been a very good league player once, he did look like someone who had just fallen off a ski-slope which I think he had.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Kidney Stone (IP Logged)
Date: 16 September, 2020 16:20

Itís a no from me.

Even in his pomp, with one or two exceptions, Burrell was an average performer.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: The Bear (IP Logged)
Date: 16 September, 2020 16:42

I hope the club, let alone the fans, are moving past the mentality of signing anything that moves...

There is a lot to be said for stability and targeting a few areas for improvement each season.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: jayeatman (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 09:40

We only need one signing for next season, a 10!
Other than that I think the squad is well-stocked and well-balanced.
The academy is also looking in much better shape too.



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Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 10:17

I think we need a 10 and a tighthead. Then depending on how the academy progresses, we need to think about replacing Batty as squad depth (he is 34) and we need to see how our academy centres settle in.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 10:42

There is a very under-used hooker - Tom Doughty and prop - Vaughan in the senior squad, as well as the 4 x props and 2 x hookers in the Academy - so hopefully some of them will start to come through.

Mind you - while some younger players have had some unexpected game time for all GP clubs this 'mini-season' and that will have fast-forwarded their progress - those that haven't made match squads will go the best part of a year without playing a match at all, which will make it pretty hard to judge their readiness/progress.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 10:51

Quote:
Optimist
There is a very under-used hooker - Tom Doughty and prop - Vaughan in the senior squad, as well as the 4 x props and 2 x hookers in the Academy - so hopefully some of them will start to come through.
Mind you - while some younger players have had some unexpected game time for all GP clubs this 'mini-season' and that will have fast-forwarded their progress - those that haven't made match squads will go the best part of a year without playing a match at all, which will make it pretty hard to judge their readiness/progress.

I actually think that 6+ months off for a young front rower isn't too bad a thing as long as they have been maintaining fitness and strength. Too many young front rowers get exposed to the enormous pressures when their bodies are still forming IMO.

In terms of next year I assume that there will be a load of friendlies etc to keep those not in the front line squads interested and active?



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Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Optimist (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 11:32

I read a player/ex-player - can't remember who/where - saying that this 'mini-season' is a bit of a dream for lots of players ... more playing, less training, and I think pretty much anyone can relate to that.

But I accept your point about young front-row players. In fact, I would hope that someone is doing some data-crunching for future use about this period. It may transpire that taking front-rowers out of the game, and just doing conditioning age 19-21 could be very much to their benefit.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: cb2 (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 11:49

We have this target of producing homegrown players, so signing a guy like Burrell would not be a great call. Go for top quality or young high potential players like we did with Watson and Joe.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: Never In Doubt (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 11:57

Quote:
Optimist
There is a very under-used hooker - Tom Doughty and prop - Vaughan in the senior squad, as well as the 4 x props and 2 x hookers in the Academy - so hopefully some of them will start to come through.
Mind you - while some younger players have had some unexpected game time for all GP clubs this 'mini-season' and that will have fast-forwarded their progress - those that haven't made match squads will go the best part of a year without playing a match at all, which will make it pretty hard to judge their readiness/progress.

Agreed Opti, prefer players to come through the academy but as they have yet to get any meaningful game time and the front row is so attritional then I think we look light at TH and hooker especially if Dunn or Stuart were to be called up.

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: bardofavon (IP Logged)
Date: 17 September, 2020 16:40

what is it with Vaughan? he played a game last season I remember. came off the bench, did ok and actually scored a try. why has he not been seen since, despite being promoted to the senior squad, while the academy rookie Verden gets a shout?

Re: Luther Burrell?
Posted by: charlieboa (IP Logged)
Date: 19 September, 2020 10:57

Quote:
bardofavon
what is it with Vaughan? he played a game last season I remember. came off the bench, did ok and actually scored a try. why has he not been seen since, despite being promoted to the senior squad, while the academy rookie Verden gets a shout?

Different side of the scrum. Vaughan is loosehead and below obano/boyce/schoeman in the pecking order. Nice player to have if needed as didnt look out of place when he had few chances last season.

Verden got a run as 4th choice tighthead as assume henry had a knock or wasnt quite ready and stuart needed a rest.

Will be interesting to see if we try to get another tighthead in to replace nixon but looks like they trust verden to step up.

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