Player's Ratings Discussion
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Date: 11 September, 2020 11:06

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Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 10:13

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Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: WorcesterSauce (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 10:57

Agree with most of that but wouldn’t have Miller on the same as Pennell and Lawrence and equally think Fidow looks good. Also think weirdly Callum Black has scrummaged very well since lockdown. He’ll never be great in the lose but neither is Schonert who I think, personally, is vastly overrated.

Would also not have Humphreys or GJVV that high. Lawrence is pure class too. He was the only bright spark in attack last night.

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 11:07

I felt that

Pennell had dropped off the pace over the last 2 seasons and has not looked on form in any game since the lockdown.

Lawrence has the capability but has gone missing at times, seems to pull it out of the bag when being watched.

Black is a mile off the pace around the park for a modern premiership prop

Schonert has made a concerted effort to improve his open field play, I see quite an improvement(there was much needed)

Millar has played well and is a tough hard character who makes an impact

Fidow’s defensive organisation is really quite poor

IMHO

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 12:15

What my number grading comes with just 21% of our squad are definitely 100% premiership players whereas 27% are not or not yet premiership players.

I wonder how many of my 11 players would make the top premiership status?

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Warrior7 (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 12:20

Nick David should be the same as whatever you rank Humphreys. Currently a solid prem player but not spectacular. Harsh on Shilly, Kai Owen, Lawrence and Heaney (I'd say Heaney is still our 2nd best scrum half - has the most consistent passing and kicking game).

Generous for Miller.

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 12:47

It doesn’t matter how good they are for us it’s how I feel they rate as premiership players.

I don’t feel David is anywhere near Humphreys - yet.

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 13:05

If we split the premiership clubs into quarters into which quarter would you place “our” level 5 premiership players

Nanai.           Top Qtr
Venter.          3rd Qtr
Weir.            2nd Qtr
Hougaard         Top Qtr
Du Preez         3rd Qtr
Kvesic.          2nd Qtr 
Lewis.           2nd Qtr
Mama.            4th Qtr
Hill.            2nd Qtr
Schonert.        3rd Qtr
Annett.          4th Qtr

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: WarwickEastie (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 14:34

I wouldn't disagree with most of your ratings JP.

I feel we have a few players who should be nailed on starters but through injury haven't quite made it yet - Mama and Humphreys being examples

I agree that the players you've ranked as 5 would be players that would walk into most other premiership sides / that most other clubs would be very happy to have.

At best, the rest are 'work in progress'.

I wonder what an equivalent chart would look like at Exeter or Sarries? I suspect 50-75% would be rated 5.

The thing this misses is X factor / game changers. Can't see too many of those at the moment in Wuss colours.

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 15:54

Who would you say was an x-factor player?

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Abmatt (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 16:01

I would say FH is when he is firing on all cylinders.

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 10 September, 2020 16:32

I feel we may have 1 or 2 more Abmatt

Nanai
Lawrence
Lewis
Hill

JP

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: WarwickEastie (IP Logged)
Date: 11 September, 2020 09:10

I wouldn't say Lewis and Hill were X factor - though Lewis would probably be the first name on the team sheet for his consistency.

In terms of making things happen - Lawrence and Nanai

Re: Prem standard or Not
Posted by: Warrior7 (IP Logged)
Date: 11 September, 2020 12:17

Hougaard, Lawrence and Nanai as x-factor for me.

Also as a side note JP - pretty sure Luke Scully plays for Cardiff now?

Re: Player's Ratings Discussion
Posted by: w4rriorz1980 (IP Logged)
Date: 11 September, 2020 14:59

Iirc Scully left for Cardiff because of EQP.



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Re: Player's Ratings Discussion
Posted by: centrethere (IP Logged)
Date: 11 September, 2020 22:14

Not sure i like the ranking of players by premiership quartile. But certainly wouldn’t put Annett in the bottom one. Would prefer we stick to good enough or not to hold a squad place in a premiership team. - which would probably back your point JP that we just rank as hanging in there in the league. 5-6 academy players still are a good season off the mark as yet for sure

Re: Player's Ratings Discussion
Posted by: Faithful_City (IP Logged)
Date: 15 September, 2020 09:23

2 of my x-factor players come good against Irish and are selected for Sky’s International Team of the week, plus one of my others also bags a brace,

JP

Re: Player's Ratings Discussion
Posted by: centrethere (IP Logged)
Date: 16 September, 2020 21:21

Why is van Breda rated so low at zero and often the same by Solomons? Don't understand. He is like the 'fall guy' for not even playing. If he is not rotated into the squad like Wier / Lance, then if I were him, I'd look for another club. Solomon's has a mental block wrt van Breda.

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