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Re: Good teams don’t become bad overnight, or do they?
Posted by: bheadlad (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2022 23:24

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pc1968
Just go to the radio Merseyside website
Then highlights
james Mountford show 8 March. 6 to 7pm
interview with Mark starts at 38 minutes ….ie 6.38pm
Hope that helps
cheers and thank you

Re: Good teams don’t become bad overnight, or do they?
Posted by: bedfordave (IP Logged)
Date: 09 March, 2022 06:48

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pc1968
After relegation in May 79 I think Johnny King was in place for all of 79/80 and part of 80/81 ….he wasn’t quite sacked on arrival in Div 4
As regards changing managers I don’t know if anyone heard Mark Palios on Radio Merseyside about 6.30 tonight ….he did of course express disappointment at recent results but seemed to have full confidence in Micky
You are right I have had a complete season removed from my memory. Kingy had a season and a few weeks after relegation. Although I wasn't against the change, the idea an established manager could even survive a drop nowadays is fantasy, when you consider how his team was broken up what did we expect? History shows it did improve things.

Re: Good teams don’t become bad overnight, or do they?
Posted by: bedfordave (IP Logged)
Date: 09 March, 2022 07:19

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Matt34
Johnny King got a bit of help off Shankley after Shanks retired from the Liverpool job. He even tried to persuade King to leave Tranmere and go after a vacant position at Sheffield Wednesday, as they were a bigger club and Shankley thought King had enough ability to make the step up.
King never tried to hussle for the job and when Shankley wanted to know why; King didn't made out that he believed of himself that he did not have enough of the right stuff to be successful there.
Shankly helped Yeats first and then Kingy after he succeeded at PP. Sheff Wed like many clubs viewed Shanks as a bit of godfather of the game and asked who they should appoint as manager. They had reached the bottom of Div 3 briefly, Kingy was the answer but he claimed, 'It wasn't the right time' and his reluctance was enough to scupper the plan. Even then Jack Charlton was an easier appointment for the public.
For all the fear over his back seat driving, there is no doubt he had a very positive effect on Kingy, who I think you suggest may have had a confidence problem- probably correctly. Which is ironic as Paisley was the original shrinking violet although he turned out alright in the end, probably carried by the Shanks dressing room initially.
Different times, one Kingy trend that may not have travelled across the Pennines well, was his attachment to local players he knew well and the youth tree.
His fallout wasn't about his own plight but our treatment of Ronnie and Ray who he saw as the future management team, I think he was spot on.

Re: Good teams don’t become bad overnight, or do they?
Posted by: Bored rover (IP Logged)
Date: 09 March, 2022 21:22

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pc1968
After relegation in May 79 I think Johnny King was in place for all of 79/80 and part of 80/81 ….he wasn’t quite sacked on arrival in Div 4
As regards changing managers I don’t know if anyone heard Mark Palios on Radio Merseyside about 6.30 tonight ….he did of course express disappointment at recent results but seemed to have full confidence in Micky

The Old vote of confidence then eh.

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