Posted by: fisher (IP Logged)
Date: 14 June, 2020 10:56

A really well thought out piece in theRugby Paper today by Bentos who is obviously not just a pretty face. He talks a lot of sense and even though some clubs including ours might not like it!

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Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 14 June, 2020 11:21

Read it too and I have to say he has got a point. Exeter are often used as an example of how a Championship club can become a very successful Premiership side but being honest how many of the current Championship sides could achieve it. Ealing have a backer bankrolling them but do they have the infrastructure and fanbase to give them a realistic chance of succeeding. Bentos also mentions the Pirates but they would struggle without there Chiefs dual registered players.

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Posted by: Jehovas Sandals (IP Logged)
Date: 14 June, 2020 13:07

I’ve always been an admirer of Bentos, as a person and what he writes. Been at a couple of away games when he’s been there and he’s a very passionate fella about his rugby!
As it stands I don’t see Ealing or Pirates being able to sustain a place in the Premiership but many said the same about us!

I drink and forget stuff!

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Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 15 June, 2020 09:43

The move to ring fence the Premiership seems to be gathering pace. Article in the Telegraph this morning:

Exclusive: Premiership rugby may be ring-fenced as soon as 2021-22 season, says PGB chair
Chris Booy believes relegation next year would be 'catastrophic' in current climate because 'not many clubs can afford a £5 million loss'

Daniel Schofield,

One of English rugby’s most powerful figures believes ring-fencing will be introduced to the Premiership next season after warning that relegation could result in a club going under.

In the midst of a furious battle between Premiership clubs and players, the issue of ring-fencing is set to be the next big focus of attention.

As chair of the Professional Game Board, the chief decision-making body within English rugby, Chris Booy says that “there is a lot of momentum” for a 13-team top tier to be introduced for the 2021-22 season, assuming Saracens bounce back straight away. Another leading source said it was “a matter of when not if ring-fencing will be introduced.”

The financial crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic has increased the urgency for Premiership clubs to pull up the drawbridge from the Championship.

Booy, who is also chairman of Bristol Bears, estimates that relegation will automatically cost £5million, which he says could be fatal in the current climate.

“Whoever faces relegation next season, it will be catastrophic,” Booy told Telegraph Sport. “Not many clubs who can afford a circa £5million loss on top of what they are losing already this year. That’s a massive, massive hit for anybody to take. You have to ask can any club survive that? It is not just a one-year hit. It takes you two to three years to recover because you had have lost your best players, you’d have lost some of your sponsors and the crowd.”

Even without the prospect of relegation, it is by no means certain that every Premiership club will come out the other side of the pandemic.

Last week, Premiership Rugby announced that it was lowering the salary cap from £6.4million to £5million, which Bristol argued against but agreed to after a series of compromises.

Bristol’s big spending on players such as Charles Piutau, Semi Radradra and Kyle Sinckler has been cited as driving salary increases across the league, a theory which Booy disputes.

“We believe that it is the threat of relegation that drives inflation,” Booy said. “When you are fighting relegation you bring in overseas players, a few journeymen and your DOR is not taking risks on players. Not only does it increase the cost but it stops the development of younger players. To me, it is a flawed system.

“If you did not have that threat of relegation it would make it much more likely that you could survive this present crisis. You could borrow money more easily because with the threat of relegation or who is going to invest with the threat of Armageddon hanging over you.”

Championship clubs have been hit even harder by the pandemic. Unlike the Premiership, the present Championship season was cancelled by the Rugby Football Union and clubs are not expecting to start playing again until Christmas.

Even before coronavirus struck the country, clubs were reeling after their funding was cut from the RFU’s decision to cut their funding from £530,000 to £288,000. As a result, many clubs will operate on part-time models.

Other than Saracens, it is believe only Ealing, Jersey, Cornish Pirates and Doncaster will be full time next season. Aside from the relegated club, the last club to win promotion to the Premiership was London Welsh in 2014 and they subsequently went into administration.

“We have seen no Championship promoted apart from the relegated Premiership team for a number of years,” Booy said.

“The gap is large and increasing. Again you would have to ask the question whether in my view there is a health and safety debate coming. When you have part-time players playing against Maro Itoje and co is that safe?”

While ring-fencing has long been a dream of many Premiership clubs, it would need the assent of both the PGB and the RFU council for it to come into effect. That now seems more likely after the RFU’s devastating funding cuts, however Booy says the path should remain open for ambitious clubs like Cornish Pirates to play in the top flight.

“At the end of the day, there are only 13 clubs with the necessary facilities, supporter base and financial muscle to play in the Premiership,” Booy said.

“We don’t want to close the door off forever, but it has to be when clubs are capable of meeting all those criteria. It is not just a Premiership Rugby decision, this is an RFU and Championship decision too, but it is a debate that will have to happen and will have to happen soon.”

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Posted by: mommentum (IP Logged)
Date: 21 June, 2020 10:45

Bristol knew that they would not be relegated from a very early stage this season, so did they play a english U20 team after they where safe?

no club should be borrowing money to pay wages (in an normal income season). Borrowing should only ever be for ground development

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