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Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: ed.up.north (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 13:07

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NorfolkFalcon
How do the new signings look? Any that have impressed? Sorry I havenít been or watched many games this season.

Greg Peterson (USA international) has looked really good and I think is our best signing for this season. Van der Walt and Vuna have only played one game each, I think, so hardly anything to base an opinion on. Considering weíre 17 games into the season they donít look like great value at this point (although we had the same problem with Ah You last season).

Darren Barry is pretty steady as is Seb de Chaves, although the lineout hasnít always worked with those guys playing. Robinson and Peterson in the second row is definitely our no1 partnership.

Gareth Owen has had a few games and looks solid although unremarkable. Wacokecoke and Stevenson have had lots of chances this season and to be honest are looking like exceptional home-grown talent.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: toastie1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:15

Jeez, that second half was horrible. Ampthill played out of their skins and credit to them. We were so flat.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: DJMc (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:31

We seemed to lose our shape when the replacements came on.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: DocA27 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:42

First half one of the best weíd played all season. Playing with a much better pace with Connon at 10, great physicality. At half time I thought this could be 70+ points.

Then 2nd half we came out, seemed to forget all our tactics from the first half , randomly threw subs on and looked terrible. Why take Connon off? He was playing well, hasnít played much this season so too much game time shouldnít be an issue.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: The Boyfriend (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:44

Agreed, we just seemed to fizzle out somehow in the second half. Some of Ampthill's tries came more from our mistakes than their own play, but, they capitalised well and never gave up; I ended up quite chuffed for them by the finish.

Wasn't impressed with the ref at all, though.

4,906 was a canny attendance, too. (Didn't really look like that many, mind)

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Barry555 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:44

Wow that second half was something else. Completely dire. Although credit to the Ampthill boys but no way should they should have got into double figures.

First half was decent enough.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: alas (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 15:52

Been a season of many lows from the Falcons in terms of performance, but that second half was the lowest so far.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: pityacker (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 18:56

I was wondering what I was watching in the first half , pace power great handling and nice tries something that has been missing from most games this season and it was a delight to watch but the second half was probably the worst half of the season but another 5 points and Iím sure the players will be more critical of that second half than the fans.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Wensleydale Falcon (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 19:25

Absolutely pitypacker......first 50 minutes they just couldnít cope with us, Our most complete 40 minute performance of the season!
We then, for some reason stopped doing the basics. However, fair play to Ampthill as they punished us for it.
Micky Wards post match analysis sums it up perfectly!!

Another 5 points though so we really canít grumble, but I do think the boys will be bitterly disappointed with their performance in the last 30 minutes.

Our defence has been extremely tight this season so Iím pretty sure their pride will be hurting.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Monkey1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 20:20

The last half hour was painful to watch, not helped by the referee losing the plot completely, which I thought was going to end up in the game's biggest ever fight at one point. Definitely one to forget, but at the end of it we are 11 points clear at the top of the table and remain unbeaten this season. I somehow doubt that this record will continue however, they look pig sick of playing these games and we are only half way through.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Barry555 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 21:19

Totally agree monkey.

These players must struggle to get up for playing these games (no disrespect to the other championship teams) but it is nowhere near Prem level or intensity. And for core group of the team it is down to them that we are in the Champ so donít have that much sympathy for them but can understand challenges mentally in this league.

Hogan mentioned something on twitter tonight that on average promoted teams lose between 1-5 games during the season. How many did Irish lose last year?

Think it puts things in perspective our league position and 100% record and that itís not all doom and gloom. Will it hold? Be interesting to see. But letís not sugar coat today , first half probably the best rugby weíve seen in a while and second half quite clearly the worst weíve seen..... and thereís been some bad rugby ....

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: markismith50 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 21:23

Barry, to answer your question. After ten rounds (ie before today) Irish had lost one more game than us and had two fewer points than us. Bristol lost one game the year they went up. Last team to do it unbeaten was Saints in 2008.



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Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Barry555 (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 21:40

Cheers Smithy!

I think that stat actually shows the graft the boys are putting in. And in comparison to those teams previous ..... we are actually doing well! It would be some achievement if we manage it , a true insight into the teams determination. Long way off yet but letís keep behind the boys!

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: aidanb (IP Logged)
Date: 02 February, 2020 23:20

I had the ref link on and I didnít think the ref lost the plot at all.

Our number 7 was getting very frustrated and has been like this for a few games now. Heís not handling the referee very well and has started to bark at them rather than chat to them the way he did when captain.

I liked how the referee was very good at saying hands down to the players at flash points. He was very much in their faces telling them they would be in bother if they escalated the flash points.

We could have scored 80 points today if we had played better in the second half but we didnít and let them score 30 ish points.

That second half was down to us and not the ref.

I still donít understand why we took Connon off. He kicked well, ran well, passed it into hands and put people into spaces rather than into contact.

The game changed for the worse around the 50 minute mark.

I put the blame squarely on the players who switched off and management who then didnít get the message back onto the team

The ref was very good at warning the players and at one point in the first half he told Michael Young that he didnít want to see our players go off feet even tho Ampthill were not really committing to the rucks. Two rucks later our prop is yellow carded.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Monkey1 (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 07:25

Cheers Aidan, should have put my reflink thingy on too I suppose.

I know that they can't do a lot in terms of playing to prepare for next season, but by crikey they could work on keeping their focus on winning, not getting wound up by the ref or the opposition, and sorting their discipline.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Bedlington Lad (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 07:50

I really like the way Wacokecoke carrries the ball in both hands and gets the ball away in a tackle. I still think when we make midfield breaks there needs to be more close support to keep the move alive.

Smashing 1st half, very disjointed 2nd half, I don't think all the subs helped and I was surprised Connon didn't get 80 minutes.

Still, five more points in the bag.[:wor kid:]

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: Bedlington Lad (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 08:02

And also ,instead of faffing about on your own line and allowing the Ampthill lock to prove a better finisher than Stuart Hogg with an open tryline ahead of him, kick it long and chase hard. Gives everyone a chance to reorganise and get some room to move.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: AJfalc (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 12:58

I think it was the Amphhill 1st try in the second half, a lineout near the south stand, the referee stops play before the ball is thrown in and warns the falcons about something. On resuming play the lineout is set again, referee gives a penalty against us, taken quickly and they score.

I take it that we ignored the referees warning and committed the same offence?
This 7 points and the interception pass in our 22 we were guilty of shooting ourselves in the foot at times.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: upwardonward (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 13:47

Having watched us KO and not make 8 metres at the start ,we are then put under immediate pressure in our own half for a good 5 mins. I put that down to nerves on Connons behalf, but tbh his kicking to touch from penalties was so conservative we barely made 15 metres at times.
He did score a nice try .
MOM? Really?
IMO Joel has to start .His kicking game is better than both Connon and Flood and his general all round game is fluent and provides good quick ball .Also his tackling has improved .

I thought the backs were poor .Devoid of ideas at times ,most of the line breaks we made were from the forwards ,who all played well.
If we lose Welch ,Wilson or Graham next year to injury then its going to be a long hard season in the Premiership.
Alex Tait is another who should be starting if fit.

MOM for me was Will Welch, another full 80 mins performance doing his job with a try thrown in as well.
Full credit to Ampthill and I thought they were one,if not the best team, we have seen at KP this season and I hope they go from strength to strength .

11 points is great,only play whats in from of you, but as we move into the second half of the season, I really do wonder about next year .
But its upward and onward . COYF.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Ampthill 2 Feb Teams Up
Posted by: alas (IP Logged)
Date: 03 February, 2020 14:21

Joel was poor at Headingley and didn't impress yesterday. Just drifted wide unlike the first half when Connon took the ball to the line effectively aided by some powerful direct support running.

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