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Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:24

given the start I think 50-21 wasn't actually that bad, I was fearing much worse. Positives, Tupai did ok and looks like he will be a decent player in a couple of years. Proctor played well again and as WP said above Ludlam is some player now. On the back of that we kept battling away which is a real good sign, would have been easy for heads to drop.

No excuses as we were 2nd best by a country mile but the officials were appalling.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Longers (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:33

Pointless exercise. really.

Boyd might have to rethink his line about confidence in anyone who is selected. Some were clearly playing way above their level.

I was impressed by both Paul Hill and Lewis Bean. They hung in there well.
Big T is really beginning to work hard. OK sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but by golly he is getting stuck in. Loved seeing him slot in at No. 8!
Not as enthused over Tupai as WP is. Reminded me of Lee Dickson in his meerkat days. Think Mitchell has a quicker, faster and more accurate pass.

Still, let's hope no nasty injury surprises and that the players who have had time off, are fully rested and recovered. Anyone for Harry?

Not impressed by our defence. I know we have just lost our lead defence coach and had to find a replacement, but we do seem to lose our shape very quickly.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: tedge (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:34

[quote Deesaint][quote St.Sinner]

Boyd is in his second year
I expect we will lose a good few players end of this season and see some quality join to cover deficiencies

Iím sure everyone has their opinion on positions that need reinforcing but we canít change mid season[/quote]

Unfortunately Boyd has already said recruitment for next season is virtually finished

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Angus67 (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:35

Well I think the Wanderers put in a good effort against Ireland.

Hopefully no new injuries and that the management can keep morale on a high.

COYS!

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: 195Rich (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:36

Scrum was solid - Fergurson seems to be making progress there and we won our own lineouts.

Same issues as all season - lineout maul not well enough organised so not an effective weapon and coughing up the ball in the 22 is fatal. Get those things right and we would be competitive against anyone.

At full strength we might have got a bonus point but Leinster must be favourites to win this competition, they were ruthless in the first 10 minutes and then let us run ourselves ragged against their defensive wall again.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Saintly Pursuit (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 19:58

Tupai is 19(?). I thought that he was very good and his passes were just as accurate as Mitchell's. He is unlikely to play against a team quite like Leinster for some time and the experience will have done him no end of good. He certainly didn't do anything wrong and he did a lot of things right.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: jdusty (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 20:08

Leinster are on a different level, we were not that bad, biggest errors for me were missed tackles and no follow up chase on our kicks. We were second best today to a very good Leinster team. It's not all over yet but I want us to focus on the league not Europe this season.

Young lads fronted up today and we should be proud of the direction our team is heading.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Coltnet (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 20:26

you said we were gonna get relegated last year - yep after some poor performances early on. Donít believe I was the only person happiy proved wrong on this.


only post when we are losing



Very sad individual, support the club or donít[/quote]

WP, do you know me? Have we met? No! Yet if I choose to post or not you seem to take specific issue with me. No idea why. The fact you have resorted to name calling speaks more about you than me Iíd suggest.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Matthew (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 20:32

Tupai was fine and survived this baptism of fire with credit. His pass slowed down as the game went on, which I assume to be fatigue rather than anything deliberate, so when Mitchell came on (and also did well), he will naturally have looked faster. I also thought Sleightholme caught the eye and did some good things.

For me still far too many errors from us and a real lack of accuracy in the red zone. And a real disappointment not to get the fourth try. Oh, and what has happened to our defence, especially 5 yards out?

Officials were mostly fine apart from the obvious lack of advantage given to us for their first try, Gibson clearly blocking for Sleightholme's try, and the time it took to check that Bigger had been tackled off the ball / that it had been knocked on by blue / that the knockon was picked up offside (I really thought it wasn't going to get checked!). Thought their sixth try came from a knock on too - Big T ripped the ball downward which hit a blue chest and went forward. In the grand scheme of things, none of these were really game changing but frustrating to see all the same.

And despite seeing that box kicking to Leinster didn't work last week, we continued to box kick more than usual this week against the same opposition.

Hopefully we'll start to see some of our injuries returning over the festive period and go into 2020 with some good news and good results!

But not too sure where we go from here in Europe this season. We can still finish second in the group and achieve 19 points which, if they come and are enough to get through to the next round, would most likely lead to another away game to Leinster. We may be able to field a largely different team by then, but injuries may still be a worry and such a game could potentially derail the Premiership game too. Perhaps go big against Treviso for confidence at home but not worry too much about the Lyon game?



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Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Wilson Pickett (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 20:39

[quote Coltnet]you said we were gonna get relegated last year - yep after some poor performances early on. Donít believe I was the only person happiy proved wrong on this.


only post when we are losing



Very sad individual, support the club or donít[/quote]

WP, do you know me? Have we met? No! Yet if I choose to post or not you seem to take specific issue with me. No idea why. The fact you have resorted to name calling speaks more about you than me Iíd suggest.[/quote]




Because you are literally the only poster who only posts when we lose. I canít remember ONE positive post from you despite being top of the league playing great rugby.


It is frankly really weird. Feel free to complain about performances and criticise some wins if you want, but why only post when we lose?

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Saint Robert (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 20:42

You've made your point WP so please move on and concentrate on the game.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Saint For Life (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:04

[quote Coltnet]you said we were gonna get relegated last year - yep after some poor performances early on. Donít believe I was the only person happiy proved wrong on this.


only post when we are losing



Very sad individual, support the club or donít[/quote]

WP, do you know me? Have we met? No! Yet if I choose to post or not you seem to take specific issue with me. No idea why. The fact you have resorted to name calling speaks more about you than me Iíd suggest.[/quote]


I recorded the match as out earlier - only just finished watching it and looked at posts on the match . I would have guaranteed negative comments from 3 posters who find it very difficult to post any positive comment on the Saints and usually are particularly verbose when we lose and mainly silent when we win .Suprisingly ( ha ha ) Coltnet you have fully met my expectations. Only 2 more to go.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Coltnet (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:16

Thatís awesome SFL. Happy my messages mean so much to everyone. I really must up my game! Couldnít give me the names of the other three could you? Perhaps we could form a band or something...

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Dragonboy (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:23

So maybe to take some heat out of the last few posts but I thought Paul Hill and Api were superb today.

Also but I thought that this competition was intended to be a Club competition so I fail to see how Ireland are allowed to masquerade as Leinster in this completion? Totally against what I understood this competition was all about.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Saintalex (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:28

Guys, move on please, we are all entitled to opinions but this is starting to cross the line. Please take this as a warning. Back to the rugby chat now please

Thank you

Alex

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Deesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:36

[quote tedge][quote Deesaint][quote St.Sinner]

Boyd is in his second year
I expect we will lose a good few players end of this season and see some quality join to cover deficiencies

Iím sure everyone has their opinion on positions that need reinforcing but we canít change mid season[/quote]

Unfortunately Boyd has already said recruitment for next season is virtually finished[/quote]

Hi Tedge

I may have got it wrong but when they said recruitment was done for next year I thought they had agreed deals with new players but they where yet to be announced

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: Chris Hoddle (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:57

Gibson was injured ended playing with 14
Not sure if some of Connors passing was accurate as some say.
Ollie missed a couple of tackles as did others.
Hope for the injuries to recover to have a chance of beating Sale next week



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Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: St.Sinner (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 21:59

[quote Deesaint][quote tedge][quote Deesaint][quote St.Sinner]

Boyd is in his second year
I expect we will lose a good few players end of this season and see some quality join to cover deficiencies

Iím sure everyone has their opinion on positions that need reinforcing but we canít change mid season[/quote]

Unfortunately Boyd has already
said recruitment for next season is virtually finished[/quote]

Hi Tedge

I may have got it wrong but when they said recruitment was done for next year I thought they had agreed deals with new players but they where yet to be announced[/quote]

If we donít get a couple new forwards to offer different selection options dependant on the opposition, weíve gone mad! Gotta meet fire with fire when you play these big boys. Shall we convert Naiyarovoro to 8?

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: TimperleySaint (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 22:13

I have to say that I was so impressed with Api. He has turned into some player. His work rate today was excellent. If he wasn't carrying he was clearing out. Tackling powerfully (for the most part). Deserves his starting spot at the moment.

Thought Tupai did well too.

That commentary on C4 was horrendous - you'd be mistaken in thinking it was Irish television. I think they only mentioned saints once or twice.

Re: Leinster v Saints
Posted by: tedge (IP Logged)
Date: 14 December, 2019 22:24

[quote St.Sinner][quote Deesaint][quote tedge][quote Deesaint][quote St.Sinner]

Boyd is in his second year
I expect we will lose a good few players end of this season and see some quality join to cover deficiencies

Iím sure everyone has their opinion on positions that need reinforcing but we canít change mid season[/quote]

Unfortunately Boyd has already
said recruitment for next season is virtually finished[/quote]

Hi Tedge

I may have got it wrong but when they said recruitment was done for next year I thought they had agreed deals with new players but they where yet to be announced[/quote]

If we donít get a couple new forwards to offer different selection options dependant on the opposition, weíve gone mad! Gotta meet fire with fire when you play these big boys. Shall we convert Naiyarovoro to 8?[/quote]

What I think he said at the STH Forum was that recruitment for next season was pretty much done with the possible exception of "a couple of forwards". Since then he has signed Matavesi, although he might be an unexpected injury cover, and most of us assumed that one of the recruits might be Kpoku from Sarries, as yet unconfirmed and more recently Eroni Mawi but also unconfirmed.

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