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Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: tedge (IP Logged)
Date: 19 January, 2020 22:05

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We also have Garside

Indeed we do Tedge but Karl is a tight head and very few are able to mix and match between 3 & 1

Just shows how little I know [:wor kid:]

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Wilson Pickett (IP Logged)
Date: 19 January, 2020 23:35

You can never have too many quality props. He’s quality.

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Saint Stokey (IP Logged)
Date: 19 January, 2020 23:38

As Gloucester and Toulouse proved today!

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Saint Maul (IP Logged)
Date: 19 January, 2020 23:38

Not for me. Like others have said we have Trinder and the academy lads as back-ups. He's no better than Waller or van Wyk so wasted money unless one of those two is going.

Having watched the top clubs in Europe they have some serious beef in their packs. We have Painter at tighthead as a beefy option. We've got Moon at 2nd row and possibly Kpoku. Loosehead we lack that big option. We need a point of difference rather than a similar player to the ones we already have. Same in the back row.

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Saint Stokey (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 09:09

Size is an issue however as Flats commented, a smaller loosehead doesn't fear a massive tighthead so long as he is better technically.

So what we need is a massive, ball carrying, technically excellent scrummaging, young, cheap loosehead. They must be 10 a penny. Oh, and if he can step like Colby run like Cobus and kick like Biggar, that would be great.*

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 10:16

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Size is an issue however as Flats commented, a smaller loosehead doesn't fear a massive tighthead so long as he is better technically.
So what we need is a massive, ball carrying, technically excellent scrummaging, young, cheap loosehead. They must be 10 a penny. Oh, and if he can step like Colby run like Cobus and kick like Biggar, that would be great.*

He's not small - he's massive! 18 stone of muscle and 5'11".

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His physical ability was never in question at Bath - he smashed all the gym records. His bench press was 6% heavier than Max 'Beef' Lahiff. The issue was that all of that strength wasn't necessarily channeled in the right way by Bath (and presumably Quins).



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Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: ajack (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 10:44

If and it is always a big if, Boyd and the other coaches think he will add to the squad and this is not just paper talk, why do so many on here doubt their judgement and think they know better?

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: smitferbrainz (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 11:33

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You can never have too many quality props. He’s quality.

You used to suggest the big Georgian front rows a fair bit. Wouldn’t we be better with one of those, probably cheaper too?

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Saint Stokey (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 11:53

Had a sneaky peek at Auterac and he does look a unit. Squat and powerful.

There are stories about it attitude and issues with the Bath coaching team which would be my only worry.
We have often said that we miss the power and grunt of big units and Auterac does seem to have that power game. If Boyd sees promise in him and under Ferg's tutelage, he could be good. As for the cost, you'd think that going from club to club to club could help us get a lower price for him. He's also been at Sarries, Bath and Quins, places with higher living costs so you'd hope we can offer him less for a better way of life.

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Scooby Saint COYS (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 11:58

At the risk of stating the very obvious, we don’t know what kind of money he- hypothetically- would be on. And that makes a potential signing like this really difficult to assess.

Having had a relatively unsuccessful end at Bath, and at Quins, it’s possible he might be a relatively cheap signing- in which case he might seem like a bargain, as our coaches might well think that they could turn his fortunes around with out style of play, etc.

Or as someone who- not that long ago- was in England contention he might be pricy- in which case he might seem like an expensive gamble, for a player who hasn’t set the world alight in the last couple of years.

I can’t honestly say he’d have been high on my list of potential signings, but if we do go for him am happy to trust the coaches’ judgement over my own.

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: Deesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 12:08

I do feel we need some bulk up front. While Waller and Haywood do well neither are the biggest players out.
A front row of Auterac ( or someone like him ) Marshall and Painter would be some front row.

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: St.Sinner (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 15:46

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If and it is always a big if, Boyd and the other coaches think he will add to the squad and this is not just paper talk, why do so many on here doubt their judgement and think they know better?

It’s not about knowing better, just offering personal opinions. Everyone has them, and I’m sure everyone would be happy to be proved wrong if the signing was to take place!

Re: Nic Auterac
Posted by: smitferbrainz (IP Logged)
Date: 20 January, 2020 16:47

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ajack
If and it is always a big if, Boyd and the other coaches think he will add to the squad and this is not just paper talk, why do so many on here doubt their judgement and think they know better?

He’s said he will add to the squad. He’s intimidated that there are 2 to 3 still to come. He suggested the other day that to a certain extent they’re always recruiting. Is there evidence of people doubting their judgment? There’ll always be speculation on recruiting, it’s a talking point and supporters will have players they’d like to see at the club. Evidence more recently on this forum suggests few posters doubt this coaching teams, particularly Chris Boyd’s judgement. There’ll always be people who think they know better. In the last 2 to 3 seasons under the previous regime we nearly all felt we could do better. The sad thing is that most were right.

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