Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: shendy (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 11:20


Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Saintly Pursuit (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 13:51

Most of the revisions seem sensible on the surface but, like most of previous law changes, could end up having unforseen cosequences.

I quite like the Orange Card idea but it seems strange that the santion would be 15 minutes out of play even if he offence is deemed, on review, to be only worth a penalty. If it isn't deemed a red card offence then the sanction should be 10 minutes at most.

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Saint Robert (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 14:23

If scrums cant be reset then how will the less competent refs determine who is at fault? It's a lottery at the moment so will only get worse if the have to make a decision.

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Saintly Pursuit (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 14:31

Scrums are only reset if the referee deems that no one is at fault or if both teams are equally at fault. If one team is deemed to have infringed then the other would be awarded a penalty. The benefit of opting for a scrum from that penalty would be far less as the risk of it not completing therefore turning the penalty into a free kick is far greater so it will tend to discourage multiple scrums.

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: saint krige (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 14:52

This could really affect teams like Exeter who (essentially) rely on scrum penalties around the middle of the park and then kick to touch 5m out.

Should speed up the game and suit Saints/Bristol type of teams

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 18:36

The orange card is unnecessary. Remove the red card decision from the referee completely, any yellow or potentially higher sanction give a yellow and in the 10 minute sin bin period make an off field decision as to whether it warrants an upgrade to red. If not player returns after 10, if yes team are a player down. They have over complicated it

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Sans Culottes (IP Logged)
Date: 28 May, 2020 18:40

Quote:
Walks11
The orange card is unnecessary. Remove the red card decision from the referee completely, any yellow or potentially higher sanction give a yellow and in the 10 minute sin bin period make an off field decision as to whether it warrants an upgrade to red. If not player returns after 10, if yes team are a player down. They have over complicated it

I think that is correct. Initially I thought the Orange card was good idea, but it is as you point out, an unnecessary complication.

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Gray_Lensman (IP Logged)
Date: 29 May, 2020 08:51

Don't worry about them. NZ won't be adopting them and neither will the Premiership (if it restarts).

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Saint.Kenneth (IP Logged)
Date: 29 May, 2020 15:54

In a time where the UK is still getting 7000-9000 cases a day (SAGE estimate) and this virus can be caught by an asymptomatic carrier simply sneezing near you, then these new ideas are basically as good as a chocolate teapot. The game is either safe to play or it isn't.

As for the orange card... I think Walks11 is spot on.

Re: Trial laws in a Covid world
Posted by: Chris1850 (IP Logged)
Date: 29 May, 2020 19:28

Quote:
Saint.Kenneth
In a time where the UK is still getting 7000-9000 cases a day (SAGE estimate) and this virus can be caught by an asymptomatic carrier simply sneezing near you, then these new ideas are basically as good as a chocolate teapot. The game is either safe to play or it isn't.
As for the orange card... I think Walks11 is spot on.

Thank you for hitting the nail firmly on the head!

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