Exeter v Tigers Match Preview


By ChrisC
December 28 2010

Westward Ho!                                                                                                           Not only the novel by Charles Kingsley after which the Devon coastal village is named but  also the call of the American pioneers as they set forth to seek their fortune in the western territories of  what was to become the USA, crossing perilous Indian country during their odyssey.                                                

The Tigers’ faithful may also feel inclined to echo the call as they also head west to the furthest reaches of the Premiership where the Exeter Chiefs wait in their tepees for the arrival of the East Midlanders.

Without doubt Exeter have been the surprise package of this year’s Premiership.  While many, including me, your humble correspondent, thought that given the unfair funding by PRL of promoted teams the West Country side would be in a season long relegation battle, how wrong I was.

Not only did Exeter’s own version of Chief Little Rock; Rob Baxter, think otherwise but so did his band of Dog Soldiers who, like their Cheyenne namesakes, have pinned themselves to the ground and are determined to fight to the last breath to stay in the Premiership.

Early in the season, when they were still an unknown quantity, the Premiership newbies visited Welford Road and gave Tigers an almighty fright before they faded and Tigers ran out ten point winners.

Since then they have lost only once at Sandy Park, which was by just three points to London Irish who, at that time, were one of the form teams in the Premiership.

On Boxing Day the Chiefs’ match at the Recreation Ground fell prey to the Winter weather but the following day Tigers’ magnificent ground staff once again overcame the elements and permitted the club to host the tenth placed team in the Premiership; Sale Sharks who had previously amassed just 14 points to show for their season’s endeavours and had also just seen their European ambitions dashed by two losses to Brive and the peremptory and, just forty-eight hours before Christmas, unnecessarily brutal departure of their coach, ex All Black Mike Brewer.  Sale money man; Brian Kennedy losing patience, although the season had yet to reach its half way point. Mr Kennedy had then to watch his team lose 54 – 21 while getting the most awful drubbing by Tigers in the process.

Perhaps soccer is more suited to Mr Kennedy.

Exeter’s last match before this Sunday’s encounter was therefore their narrow 26 -24 loss to Newcastle in the Amlin Challenge Cup played up at Galashiels, with the Kingston Park pitch unplayable, the spectacle was witnessed by 527 spectators so the local Constabulary was relieved to be able to save the cost of deploying their mounted officers to control the crowds.

A week earlier, when Falcons had visited Sandy Park they got a bit of a shellacking from the Chiefs who are not to be trifled with on home soil.

The Chiefs put five tries on the visitors that day with the strong Exeter pack putting the Falcons eight to the tomahawk, taking no prisoners as Alan Tait watched, like George Custer at the Battle of the Little Big Horn, as his troops were also wiped out.

In the early days of their tenure in the Premiership it was, perhaps, easy for their detractors to dismiss Exeter as a one trick Indian pony with a heavyweight pack but not much else however now that they have found their feet and the spectre of being a one season Premiership team has dissolved in the Devonshire light they have a spring to their moccasins and when they get full PRL funding for the 2011/12 season they’ll be an even bigger force to be reckoned with.

Rob Baxter has been using his squad well and it will be interesting to see the starting line up on Sunday as I’m sure that the home side will see this as a wonderful opportunity to claim a remarkable scalp from a Tigers’ side that has been misfiring of late but for all that are still second in the league.

On Sunday at Sandy Park I expect to see regular Brett Sturgess in the #1 shirt with Neil Clark hooking and the trio completed by Hoani Tui as Rob Baxter looks to his strongest front row to combat the power of the Tigers.

Sturgess has played with the Barbarians while Kiwi Tui has turned out for New Zealand Maori so these two bring international experience and will present a solid challenge to the Tigers’ front row of current internationals with Cole joining the EPS rested Chuter, who will probably rotate with Rob Hawkins, who had an excellent start against Sale and Ayerza who again struggled with his opposing tighthead binding illegally.

Once again, last Monday, the opposition tight head was permitted to bind on the Argentinian’s bicep with the scrum alternatively collapsing or crabbing across. Once again the match officials ignored the cheating and once again the spectacle of the scrummage was ruined.

Next week J P Doyle is in charge of his 18th  Premiership game down at Sandy Park and from what I’ve seen of him he looks bang on IRB message so I’m not holding my breath for an improvement in the prevailing situation.

With two good scrummaging sides such as the Chiefs and Tigers it would be wonderful to see the scrum correctly managed by the match officials but I am starting to believe that there is a concerted effort by the IRB/RFU to discredit the set piece as the incompetence in refereeing and the disregarding of such a simple law to enforce by so many match officials is just too much of a coincidence to be explained any other way.

It could be a tight confrontation up front. In the second row I would expect to see, Irish born Tom Hayes join up with James Hanks who are a good combination in open play with strong defensive credentials in a team that is right at the top of the tackles stat although as a consequence they do miss more tackles than any other team, sharing the worst performance in the Premiership with Leeds, they are also one of the less effective sides on their own throw.

The Tigers’ pairing of Deacon and Slater did well against the Sale line out, and both were exceptional in their defensive duties with Slater showing some nice handling skills and whether or not Skivington is brought back I can see, with Mafi in the mix at line out time, that Tigers should at least hold their own here and maybe even gain some advantage at the set piece.

For the Chiefs in the back row I expect to see Samoan international, Chad Slade at blindside who will also give presence at the line out, with the vastly experienced ex Bath back rower; Brummie, James Scaysbrook at open side.  Scaysbrook, who was always a bit part player at Bath has really come to the fore down with the Chiefs and is a traditional #7 which may get him into trouble with Mr Doyle if the Irishman is to enforce Leagunion.  Young Dave Ewers completed the breakaway trio against Falcons but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the more experienced ex Bristolian James Phillips start as he’s now back from injury.

I thought Steve Mafi had a good game against Sale when he was a thorough nuisance in the line out and defended well.  Craig Newby was much more of a presence at the breakdown than against USAP and his defence was back on par also it was good to see Thomas Waldrom popping up all over the park with some lovely offloading work and signature gain line breaking charges.

Provided that the Tigers’ front five get some control then I can see the breakaways doing well against the home side but the Chiefs’ Dog soldiers will be ferocious at the breakdown.

Behind the pack the very experienced Samoan international Junior Poluleuligaga, capped eighteen times for his country, will probably continue and be paired with Gareth Steenson who’s back from injury so given the Irishman’s massive influence earlier in the season I expect to see him start and keep the scoreboard ticking if Tigers’ show lack of discipline.

James Grindal gave a very good account of himself against the experienced Dwayne Peel last time out with a fast accurate pass and with minimal fuss and absence of histrionics he got quick ball out to his half back partner of the day, Jeremy Staunton, who for me had his best performance in a Tigers’ shirt, he stood flatter, showed some nice handling skills leading to try assists.  If Flood is still injured then I expect to see Staunton joining the now fully rested Ben Youngs who I hope has spent his Christmas leisure time practising his pass and work rate at the breakdown.

For the hosts I anticipate that seven time capped Fijian international Sereli Naqelevuki will retain the inside centre berth from Bryan Rennie with the 6’4” south seas islander, who weighs in at almost 18 stones, presenting a major defensive challenge for the much smaller Anthony Allen who had an excellent game against Sale with a full assortment of his skills on display, however I wonder, given  the potential physical mismatch, whether we may see Billy Twelvetrees get a start in the #12 shirt with Manu Tuilagi outside him.

Frenchman Nic Sestaret could well have the outside centre spot instead of Phil Dollman, who misses a lot of tackles, and if so he’ll have his hands full with Tuilagi junior who provided a bravura performance last Monday with a great mix of subtle skill and bruising presence, think what he’ll be like when he’s full grown!

In the back three ex Cherry and White Mark Foster is another previous bit player who has prospered under the tutelage of Rob Baxter and his coaching team and after his brace of tries last time it’s hard not to think that Midlander Matt Jess won’t keep his place on the other wing with English born, but with Fijian qualified, Josh Matavesi, who’s already been capped on 5 occasions even though he’s just 20 years old preferred at full back, even though Luke Arscott has one of the best records in beating defenders, in metres gained and offloads made, so it’s a tough call.

The Chiefs’ backs are getting more of a look in these days and can be a real threat when play breaks up as will be the hosts’ aim.

The Tigers’ back three had a lovely time against Sale but this has to be taken in the context of the opposition they faced and the space they had provided to them which will not be available against Exeter.  Even in this performance, and not wishing to sound too much like Victor Meldrew, I was concerned about the defence.  Once again an opposition found the blind side of the scrum undefended leaving it to Grindal alone to make a last ditch attempt to stop a big back row forward bursting through and too often a kick into the right hand corner found Alex Tuilagi absent without leave – where does he go to?

Geordan Murphy relished the space to run at and showed why he’s second in the try assist stat but retains an unhelpful top spot for turning over ball with his possible opposite number, Luke Arscott, just one turnover behind on 18.

Hamilton had a field day of course against Sale and made the absolute most of his chances in slotting a brace which takes him to the top of the Premiership try scorers this season, an achievement he shares with Tom Varndell and Topsy Ojo but it will be a very different matter for him against the obdurate Chiefs’ defence.

I continue, maybe in vain, to see Amorosino or Agulla even on the bench – they aren’t a figment of my imagination are they?

Tigers will need to revert to a much tighter and conservative game plan against the dangerous Chiefs who are top of the ball carrying stats although the carries are not as productive as maybe Rob Baxter would like and too few clean breaks have thus far been made.

I see this has being a tight and probably low scoring match and that Tigers may have to be content with a losing bonus point down on the Exeter reservation – now where’s my Coonskin hat?

 

Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: minuteman (IP Logged)
Date: 28/12/2010 20:05

Hi there, chiefs poster here.. Id be surprised if you see the team you predict. Id imagine it will. Be similar to the side which gave you such a great game at your place. You will be sure of a great welcome at Sandy Park, its our first sell out of the season and for us Chiefs supporters its what life in the AP is all about, pitting our witts against the top sides in Europe. That said we have seen Special players look average but youll have to be on form to beat us. The thing in your favour is our lack of game time.whatever the outcome itll be a cracker..enjoy your trip to the Westcountry proper.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Tiggs (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 09:41

Thanks as ever Chris, always much appreciated.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 12:36

Many thanks Chris, I hope our performance at WR v Exeter wasn't down to over confidence but suspect it was. So no excuses this time for anything but full on.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 13:34

Thanks Chris - spot on and, as always, impressive research!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 15:33

Chris - I would suggest that Brian Kennedy is a real rugby man, his children play and he even turned out for Sandbach a few times in that last few years. He is passionate about the game and had "invested*" lots of his own money in Sale to try and get them sorted.

* where the word invested could be translated as pi$$ed up the wall.

The purchase of Stockport County I believe was to ensure a stadium to play in.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 15:41

He might have been better selling off both stadia and building a new one then!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:01

Easier said than afforded! But in my opinion the new ground is better than some but spoiled by some of the inhabitants.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:25

Hmmm - I would suggest that the problem is more numerical!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:27

Didn't say he wasn't a real rugby man merely that his management style is more akin to soccer where managers barely get there pen and pencil out before they're sacked.

imho Kennedy got it badly wrong by employing St Andre.

All he needed to do was look down the road to Kingsholm where Tom Walkinshaw employed the Frenchman and there too he imported a whole coterie of his compatriots and got short term "success" but in the process divided the dressing room as he and his French imports would speak only French and the (then) largely local players were excluded from the decision making process.

The issues arose and off St Andre went back to France before popping up again at Sale and, it looks to me, to have done exactly the same thing. In both cases the departure of the French contingent decimated the playing side and others were left to pick up the pieces. Maybe the same thing will happen at Toulon.

Just seems to me that sacking Brewer as he did was both brutal (did he really need to sack him a day or so before Christmas? What did it actually achieve) and before Brewer had even had half a season.

It was all a bit like the old days at Sarries where another real rugby man is/was in charge of the money but continuity of coaching and recruitment had been an issue before the current SAracens set up.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:33

And look how difficult they have found building their support as well...

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:38

I suggest there is a parallel with Loffreda in Brewer, Saint Andre was OK but unable to deliver consistently. Rich has it rihgt in terms of crowd numbers being a limiting factor.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:48

I'd agree on that comparison Mike but then I think Tigers acted prematurely wrt Lofreda...

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Tiggs (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 16:49

I heard that Brewer had completely lost the dressing room, which if true, meant he could not stay really ?

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 17:28

Yes maybe that's true Steve but surely not the whole dressing room after all he brought in a fair few players who'd have been on his "side" I'd have thought.

I wasn't "around" when the whole Loffreda/Meyer thing was going on so don't really know what went on there.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 17:33

How long was Loffreda in post?

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 18:17

I think he arrived Nov after the RWC and departed in the close season after the EDF game v Ospreys.

At the time, I too felt he was hard done by but nothing I have seen since leads me to believe it was the wrong decision.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/12/2010 20:07

Here's what the Mnachester Evening News had to say...

"However, the feeble manner of successive Amlin Cup defeats to Brive over the past 10 days convinced Kennedy he had to act swiftly.

Once a number of players had complained to the millionaire businessman about Brewer’s style and approach, Kennedy then canvassed opinion from the rest of Sale’s senior management team.

And, having found no-one willing to defend the Kiwi, he wielded the axe yesterday morning before then addressing Sale’s first team squad.

“We would like to thank Mike for his dedication and commitment,” Kennedy added.

“I am personally very disappointed that this has not worked out and wish him all the best for the future.”

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 09:18

Hmmm.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 10:19

Whilst I wouldn't argue that we are now, undeniably. in a better place than under Lofreda - and quite possibly under any coach since Dean's time in charge I am not convinced that we have arrived there by virtue of any great planning or astute management. Neither am I quite convinced that we might not have succeeded equally had we given Lofreda longer - though I accept that some of the stories that came out subsequently were worrying and indicative of significant areas of concern. More than that though I have been concerned for some time that our attractiveness to outside [playing] talent has been impacted by the appearance of instability that arrises out of our frequent and seemingly premature chages of management personnel. Not so much that individually the removals of Deano and Marcello the, precipitated, departure of John Wells or the unfortunate loss of Meyer were individually wrong but more that as a whole they add up to an unfortunate and unattractive levels of churn.

The current period of sustained stability is very much to be desired and I hope it long continues - even through a dip in results should such occur.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: seventyeight (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 14:21

But given Tigers stated aims and desire to be competitive in Europe - will a second successive failure to reach the quaters, let alone have a Home (money spinning) quarter final, bring a premature end to Mr Cockerill's leadership?

NB I'm not saying he should or will go under such circumstances ... just after peoples thoughts

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 15:05

It worries me!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Tiggs (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 15:15

I think the Board currently blame the squad size, and salary cap, rather than blame Cockers, at the moment at least.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 15:20

I can't see the board being daft enough to get rid of Cockers unless he lost the dressing room (unlikely) especially given the extreme difficulty in which he's had to operate this year EPS/Injuries/Salary Cap

Now if there's no silverware in 2010/11 and none again in 2011/12 it could be a different matter.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 19:48

Ben Kay actually said on ESPN that the players were consulted and wanted Loffreda out. They were comparing it to Brewer and Ben Kay said you don't have to like the coach but you have to respect him, you can't be disliked and disrespected.

To say the man who won them their only title was a bad appointment is a complete nonsense. The probablem was Kennedy stopped funding/was stopped from funding by the salary cap the rather impressive pack which had won them the league. The entire back row of that team now play in France, as does Schofield, Bruno, Faure and White from the squad.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 30/12/2010 23:42

I suspect there was somewhat of both!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: ChrisC (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 09:30

Depends whether short term success (which the St Andre "model" seems to produce) is worth it when the long term structure and success of the club is prejudiced.

If short term success was the objective then it was a good appointment if long term success was the objective then it was a bad appointment. History proves the point.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: OAP (Over a pint) (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 09:40

Getting back to this weekend's game; we look forward to welcoming you to Sandy Park this weekend and hope, if that's the right word, to reverse the result from earlier in the season. Sitting in the Krumble stand I just allowed myself for a minute to believe we might win when we scored our third try. This weekend I can allow myself to believe we might win before the strt of the game which means we have moved way beyond our ambitious dreams.

The Tribe have been in their teepees for several days now and if you arrive early enough and manage to find the secret sacred site you could be fortunate enough to witness the war dance but the real Battle of the Shoehorn will take place on the park and I hope we all enjoy it. Don't expect us to roll over like Sale because Big Chief Baxter will have other ideas.

Safe trip down en enjoy our hospitality

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 16:57

Looking forward to it.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: noq (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 18:36

Is it just me or has the preview disappeared?

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 18:43

Yes it's just you!

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: irishaxeman (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 18:53

Am I the only person for who the disappearance of Meyer was overdue and very welcome?

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 19:01

Probably not - but I suspect that there are an equal number who felt that we hadn't seen where he wanted to take us.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Tiggs (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 19:14

I always suspected that Meyer and Loffreda could have been successful at Tigers, but doubt that the Board or supporters were really prepared for the changes that would have needed to happen, or the time it would have taken.
Tigers are Tigers, and the only way is Tigers way, any change would be long and difficult, by it's very nature.
Hence we always end up being insular, which one day could be our downfall. We need the incumbents to organise a painless transition to the next phase, one step at a time.
Evolution, not revolution, IMO.

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 31/12/2010 19:53

I'm certainly happier with the club under Cockers than either of Loffreda or Meyer.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: odd-shaped vagaries (IP Logged)
Date: 02/01/2011 12:14

I felt Marcelo was treated poorly, but he was lost and his departure, if not the manner of it, was inevitable

Meyer always bothered me. His game was too kicking based and even were we to see success under his tutelage it would have grim to watch - ultimately a downward course - and if he'd built his Loftus Welford Road, when he eventually went what would we have?

Far from 'insularity'* being a Tigers weakness, it is this bond which drives us on through these spartan times and sets us apart from the rest ... if it is to see us fall ultimately, that will be down to the suits cutting too close to the quick

* I'm sure it is actually 'insularity', more an ethos which welcomes those from outside who want to be part of us but rejects dictators

'Lions led by donkeys' .. Lest we forget

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: Rich W (IP Logged)
Date: 02/01/2011 22:59

Mostly ageeed OSV. But we don't kniw how Meyer's plans (which included Richard & Matt) would have panned out...

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Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: seventyeight (IP Logged)
Date: 03/01/2011 11:01

With the advent of leagueunion this season we've just managed to score more trys than the opposition. In previous incarnations of the game we love (the beloved ELVs) everyone including Meyer just had a competition to see who could kick the ball the most times the highest which Hougaard was good at and continued to be last year at SArries until Jan 2010 when he and SArries suddenly changed their game plan with much success.

As Rich says we dont know what would have been if Meyer had stayed - everyone else moved from a kicking game to a running game for the 2nd half of the season and Meyer's distractors seem convinced that we would have been the only ones not to change.

Re: Exeter v Tigers Match Preview
Posted by: odd-shaped vagaries (IP Logged)
Date: 04/01/2011 18:11

Not arguing with Rich's qualification, but with hindsight judgments are generally easier ... I speak as I found, but that was also inclusive of the odd Blue Bulls performance of the era and the fact he turned to Hougaard who was/is undeniably a kicking fly half

'Lions led by donkeys' .. Lest we forget

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