Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
By thechiefstribe.com
April 15 2026
TEAMS, MATCH INFORMATION, PRE-MATCH DISCUSSION THREAD AND SCORE PREDICTIONS
Saturday 2 May 2026 at 5.30 p.m. at Affidea Stadium, Belfast
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Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
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Date: 30/04/2026 09:10
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Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Grandstand Viewer (IP Logged)
Date: 30/04/2026 17:09
No idea but I'll try Ulster 24 Chiefs 24
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:01
Exeter Chiefs:
15 Ben Hammersley
14 Campbell Ridl
13 Henry Slade
12 Len Ikitau
11 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
10 Harvey Skinner
9 Stephen Varney
1 Scott Sio
2 Max Norey
3 Bachuki Tchumbadze
4 Dafydd Jenkins (c)
5 Andrea Zambonin
6 Tom Hooper
7 Christ Tshiunza
8 Ross Vintcent
Replacements:
16 Joseph Dweba
17 Ethan Burger
18 Josh Iosefa-Scott
19 Rusi Tuima
20 Finn Worley Brady
21 Tom Cairns
22 Will Haydon-Wood
23 Nick Lilley
15 Ben Hammersley
14 Campbell Ridl
13 Henry Slade
12 Len Ikitau
11 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
10 Harvey Skinner
9 Stephen Varney
1 Scott Sio
2 Max Norey
3 Bachuki Tchumbadze
4 Dafydd Jenkins (c)
5 Andrea Zambonin
6 Tom Hooper
7 Christ Tshiunza
8 Ross Vintcent
Replacements:
16 Joseph Dweba
17 Ethan Burger
18 Josh Iosefa-Scott
19 Rusi Tuima
20 Finn Worley Brady
21 Tom Cairns
22 Will Haydon-Wood
23 Nick Lilley
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:12
Ulster
1. Sam Crean (17)
2. Tom Stewart (72)
3. Tom O’Toole (139)
4. Iain Henderson (C) (176)
5. Cormac Izuchukwu (51)
6. David McCann (88)
7. Nick Timoney (180)
8. Juarno Augustus (14)
9. Nathan Doak (106)
10. Jack Murphy (31)
11. Jacob Stockdale (148)
12. Stuart McCloskey (216)
13. Jude Postlethwaite (44)
14. Zac Ward (26)
15. Michael Lowry (132)
Replacements:
16. James McCormick (17)
17. Eric O’Sullivan (135)
18. Tom McAllister (3)
19. Charlie Irvine (11)
20. Bryn Ward (16)
21. Conor McKee (20)
22. Jake Flannery (37)
23. Ethan McIlroy (74)
1. Sam Crean (17)
2. Tom Stewart (72)
3. Tom O’Toole (139)
4. Iain Henderson (C) (176)
5. Cormac Izuchukwu (51)
6. David McCann (88)
7. Nick Timoney (180)
8. Juarno Augustus (14)
9. Nathan Doak (106)
10. Jack Murphy (31)
11. Jacob Stockdale (148)
12. Stuart McCloskey (216)
13. Jude Postlethwaite (44)
14. Zac Ward (26)
15. Michael Lowry (132)
Replacements:
16. James McCormick (17)
17. Eric O’Sullivan (135)
18. Tom McAllister (3)
19. Charlie Irvine (11)
20. Bryn Ward (16)
21. Conor McKee (20)
22. Jake Flannery (37)
23. Ethan McIlroy (74)
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:13
Referee: Pierre Brousset (France)
Assistant referees: Luc Ramos (France), Craig Evans (Wales)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)
Assistant referees: Luc Ramos (France), Craig Evans (Wales)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:14
Weather Forecast as at 1200 Friday
Thundery showers and light winds from the south south-east
Temperature 14 degrees will feel like 15 degrees
Chance of Precipitation
Thundery showers and light winds from the south south-east
Temperature 14 degrees will feel like 15 degrees
Chance of Precipitation
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Boldeagle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:14
Ulster 35 - 25 Chiefs. Because Hammersley is playing full back
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:15
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Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Mike the shirt (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:20
Pessimistic so:
Ulster 31 - 18 Exeter
Ulster 31 - 18 Exeter
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: dwhite805 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:32
15 worries me especially at their place. However Im going with my heart. Ulster 22 Chiefs 28
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Chief Bert (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 12:34
Obviously we've got some injuries and other unavailabilities so a bit understrength, however the squad will want to step up after last week's performance, so Ulster 24 - 28 Chiefs 🫣
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Rowancroft73 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:15
Ulster 28 Chiefs 24
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: ExTeddChief (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:17
Hmmm...that looks like a tough Ulster team and a not-quite full strength Chiefs team. Yet I didn't throw money at getting to Belfast for nothing so feel I have to lean towards optimism.
Ulster 25 Chiefs 30?
Ulster 25 Chiefs 30?
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: DumnoniiNomad (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:32
Not confident. Hammers at FB is a concern, but the pack looks strong. A big opportunity for Norey to step up.
Ulster 30 Chiefs 20
In Rob we trust.
By the way - cream on first. There's nothing to debate.
Ulster 30 Chiefs 20
In Rob we trust.
By the way - cream on first. There's nothing to debate.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Zyder head (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:42
We ned and I expect a response from last weekend.
It will be tough but I think it's fair to say that a trip to Ulster shouldn't be as daunting as it was maybe a season or two ago?
Like everyone else I am worried about our strength in depth, especially playing someone at full back who isn't a full back and isn't the strongest tackler?
Not confident but optimistic that we can get a result 🤞🙏
It will be tough but I think it's fair to say that a trip to Ulster shouldn't be as daunting as it was maybe a season or two ago?
Like everyone else I am worried about our strength in depth, especially playing someone at full back who isn't a full back and isn't the strongest tackler?
Not confident but optimistic that we can get a result 🤞🙏
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Scottish Chief (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:49
I’d love to see us go all the way but Ulster at home is not easy:
Ulster 29 - 24 Chiefs
Ulster 29 - 24 Chiefs
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Big Chief Little Chief (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 13:52
These last two games have been costly for us. We've lost Yendle, woodburn, Paul BB, Greg and for a different reason Roots. Stick those five in the 23 and I'd feel a lot more confident. We especially miss the experience of the first two in that list, both have seen it and done it many times.
Like most people I'm not exactly thrilled seeing hammers at 15, I feel sorry for him really he's an inexperienced winger who seems to play more out of position. Full back is not an easy position and one where you can be easily exposed. I'm sure we must have a better option somewhere!!
Any news on Greg I hadn't realised he was an injury doubt. Surprised to see Josh IS picked over Jimmy roots given their performances at Gloucester.
Hope our first 15 have plenty of energy, the dubs bench doesn't inspire confidence. It wouldn't look at of place as a championship teams replacements.
Nothing anyone can do but our lack of depth is really costing us now. With a stronger bench would Ethan really of carried on last week?
Let's hope for no early injuries. I'm really hoping we can see this though but I'm afraid I'm not confident. If I was Ulster I'd be raining kicks down on poor old hammers from minute one. My pessimistic side is taking over now Ulster 34 Chiefs 21 really really hope I'm wrong.
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Like most people I'm not exactly thrilled seeing hammers at 15, I feel sorry for him really he's an inexperienced winger who seems to play more out of position. Full back is not an easy position and one where you can be easily exposed. I'm sure we must have a better option somewhere!!
Any news on Greg I hadn't realised he was an injury doubt. Surprised to see Josh IS picked over Jimmy roots given their performances at Gloucester.
Hope our first 15 have plenty of energy, the dubs bench doesn't inspire confidence. It wouldn't look at of place as a championship teams replacements.
Nothing anyone can do but our lack of depth is really costing us now. With a stronger bench would Ethan really of carried on last week?
Let's hope for no early injuries. I'm really hoping we can see this though but I'm afraid I'm not confident. If I was Ulster I'd be raining kicks down on poor old hammers from minute one. My pessimistic side is taking over now Ulster 34 Chiefs 21 really really hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: nick holder (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 14:06
neither english team will make the final, Toulon to spring a surprise on an undercooked blue Ireland
Montpellier to beat dragons
Montpellier to beat dragons
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Undercroft90 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 14:21
Ulster 31 - Chiefs 23
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Not Manichean (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 14:30
I share a lot of the pessimism. And some of the injuries definitely weaken the team.
But on the plus side, Henry and Len, Manny and Ridl, Daf, Zambo and Hooper are all capable of swinging a game. Varney and Skinner are eminently reliable and our pack is pretty decent overall.
I too feel sorry for Hammersley, but he has turned in some surprisingly good performances in the past, I just hope that this is his weekend.
Just as a matter of interest, does anyone have any thoughts about why Manny and Ridl have swapped wings?
Ulster 23 Chiefs 30
But on the plus side, Henry and Len, Manny and Ridl, Daf, Zambo and Hooper are all capable of swinging a game. Varney and Skinner are eminently reliable and our pack is pretty decent overall.
I too feel sorry for Hammersley, but he has turned in some surprisingly good performances in the past, I just hope that this is his weekend.
Just as a matter of interest, does anyone have any thoughts about why Manny and Ridl have swapped wings?
Ulster 23 Chiefs 30
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Ljs399 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 14:56
I’ll be setting off from Spain in about 10 hours from now, so a long day ahead, hope it will be worth the effort, Treviso certainly was. Surprised Dan John wasn’t selected for the squad, along with Jimmy R, and is Greg injured or just rested for the big game next weekend? And i too wondered why Ridl and Manny swapped wings. Christ T looked good when he came on last week, plenty of experience in our forwards. But Ulster do look strong!
I have to go with heart over head
Ulster 28 Chiefs 31
I have to go with heart over head
Ulster 28 Chiefs 31
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: SixNineOne (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 15:00
Ulster 26; Chiefs 31
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Bodges with Badgers (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 16:40
Is Fisilau injured? Huge loss. But looking on the bright side, Vintcent might have a few more chances to use his pace from 8 and Tshiunza often gets a couple of lineout steals.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Andy15.1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 17:12
Greg was limping badly at the end of last weeks game, so no shock he is missing. We will miss him like all our big players who are not available. So disappointed that Wimbush not in our squad, he has played in the Champions Cup, was outstanding in the Prem cup after a long injury lay off. He has so much to offer and can play on the wing allowing Ridl to continue at full back. We all know Hammersley is a car crash waiting to happen, Dan John must be fed up, he rarely makes a glaring error. In saying this I hope Hammersley can hold his own, it is such an important position in the modern game.
Away on a plastic pitch is not going to be easy especially with Ulster having a lot of their quality players returning from injury. I think we will score a few points but defensively we look a shadow of the side from earlier in the season. Ulster 38 Chiefs 24.
Away on a plastic pitch is not going to be easy especially with Ulster having a lot of their quality players returning from injury. I think we will score a few points but defensively we look a shadow of the side from earlier in the season. Ulster 38 Chiefs 24.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Zyder head (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2026 18:02
I posted earlier and was going to mention that Ulster have the benefit of an extra days rest over us from last weekend having played on the Saturday compared to our Sunday but have just noticed that Ulster basically rested virtually their entire first 15 last weekend so that is irrelevant! Lol.
Us playing 6 days ago and them having a good break makes this an even more difficult task so we are really up against it.
At least we played on plastic last weekend so that was a benefit
Us playing 6 days ago and them having a good break makes this an even more difficult task so we are really up against it.
At least we played on plastic last weekend so that was a benefit
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Hankey (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 07:14
Ulster 28 Chiefs 35
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: thestokecanon (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 08:07
Ulster 21 - Chiefs 28
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Osmium (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 08:18
Ulster 31 - 33 Chiefs
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Big Chief Little Chief (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 10:35
Quote:PaulHerox
Good luck!
Thanks Paul, we'll need it!!
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: ExeterFan (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 12:28
Ulster 34 us 27
Concerned our back row may be a bit lightweight, and not sure Hammersley is the answer at 15. Is Dan John unavailable.
Concerned our back row may be a bit lightweight, and not sure Hammersley is the answer at 15. Is Dan John unavailable.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 12:30
Ulster 31 Chiefs 24
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Francis Allen (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 12:32
Best wishes to those making the trip and good luck tomorrow. Here's hoping we can meet next week in the knowledge we have done our best to represent English clubs in European competitions. Looking forward, hopefully, to supporting each other in Bilbao in 3 weeks time!
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: ouch!_that_hurts (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 13:27
I'm not sure I really believe this will happen but Ulster 24 Chiefs 26
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Brent1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 15:09
Well….will be tough
Feel for Hammers, but he never backs off even when he makes mistakes and always puts his body on the line when a lesser player may go missing in action- so I hope he plays a blinder, of course we would prefer Woody or Tommy Wyatt to be there but that’s life
We’ll have a good line out hopefully with Chinz adding to our world class 2nd row..
Ultimately if we really want it ,we can win it , if we are even slightly off the pace…..Ulster it is
COYC
Feel for Hammers, but he never backs off even when he makes mistakes and always puts his body on the line when a lesser player may go missing in action- so I hope he plays a blinder, of course we would prefer Woody or Tommy Wyatt to be there but that’s life
We’ll have a good line out hopefully with Chinz adding to our world class 2nd row..
Ultimately if we really want it ,we can win it , if we are even slightly off the pace…..Ulster it is
COYC
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Undercroft90 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 19:13
Is this the time to say, oh well focus on the league!?
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Tiverton Brave (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 20:14
Yep, keep running into brick walls, that'll work..not!
Invention? Chip over the top, play the territory game with some kicks to pin them back?
No, keep bashing the door!
Disappointing say say the least!
As for the yellow card on Mani...clear head contact and coupled with grabbing his head and throwing onto the floor!!
A clear red!!
Hey ho, rant over.
Invention? Chip over the top, play the territory game with some kicks to pin them back?
No, keep bashing the door!
Disappointing say say the least!
As for the yellow card on Mani...clear head contact and coupled with grabbing his head and throwing onto the floor!!
A clear red!!
Hey ho, rant over.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Chief10tank (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 20:23
Huff and puff and no imagination. Do we suffer from nerves at these critical games. So many handling errors and knock ons I lost count the times the Ulster supporters sang the "knock on" tune.
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Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Chief10tank (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 20:46
What is worrying is that we clearly have no strength in depth, and Baxter is quoted as having almost completed his squad for next season. Difficult run in to the end of the season and lots of injuries, fear we will not make the top 4. Is top 6 our best bet?
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Andy15.1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 21:05
Very few positives from that performance where we looked flat at times, that’s two weeks running away from home on plastic pitches we have played a team which has rested players for two weeks, it showed again with the lack of intensity in defence where we were bullied and could not stop the offloads in the tackle. Coupled with our error count of dropping balls and silly penalty errors (Norey for example) , we could not get any momentum in the game. A lot of that was good defence but we looked blunt in attack for the first time this season, a lot of course down to personnel on the pitch.
I thought we got selection wrong in a number of areas but that’s being picky we weren’t good enough and our squad lacks any depth to rotate. Another sickening injury for Manni, he may now be missing a few weeks as he’s had trouble with head knocks already this season, it was just a horrible challenge.
Another very solid game from Cam Ridl he is having a fantastic break out season.
Congratulations to Ulster by far the better team on the night.
Next week v Bath could well be a challenge selection wise with so many players unavailable.
I thought we got selection wrong in a number of areas but that’s being picky we weren’t good enough and our squad lacks any depth to rotate. Another sickening injury for Manni, he may now be missing a few weeks as he’s had trouble with head knocks already this season, it was just a horrible challenge.
Another very solid game from Cam Ridl he is having a fantastic break out season.
Congratulations to Ulster by far the better team on the night.
Next week v Bath could well be a challenge selection wise with so many players unavailable.
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Big Chief Little Chief (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 22:14
Disappointed but I suppose this was always likely to happen. With depth so thin, we needed some luck with Injuries, instead we lost our entire back three! As soon as I heard Manny had failed his HIA I feared the worst. He was always likely to make something happen.
Each injury just shines more light on the lack of depth. We were in the game until our pack started to tire. With no firepower to bring off the bench we were always likely to drop off. Our limited game plan was solely down to the fact we didn't have any first choice back three players on the pitch.
Some players look exhausted now and are making silly mistakes due to that. I'm still not sure on Harvey at ten, too much responsibility is placed on Henry's shoulders. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we don't win another game this year. If investment comes then squad depth is number one priority. I feel sorry for the players and coaches, we can all see the number one issue but are powerless to do anything about it
Each injury just shines more light on the lack of depth. We were in the game until our pack started to tire. With no firepower to bring off the bench we were always likely to drop off. Our limited game plan was solely down to the fact we didn't have any first choice back three players on the pitch.
Some players look exhausted now and are making silly mistakes due to that. I'm still not sure on Harvey at ten, too much responsibility is placed on Henry's shoulders. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we don't win another game this year. If investment comes then squad depth is number one priority. I feel sorry for the players and coaches, we can all see the number one issue but are powerless to do anything about it
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: NorthD 4ever (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 22:18
I don't think that Ulster were the better team and given the lack of first team experience we were forced to send over there I thought we put up a great performance. How the heck Broussett can get away with awarding a yellow for the Mani foul is beyond belief and there was a second yellow/red that Ulster got away with when the game was all but done.
Personally proud of the boys today in the fight they put up and can't wait to see what next season brings with what is obviously a very up and coming team!
Personally proud of the boys today in the fight they put up and can't wait to see what next season brings with what is obviously a very up and coming team!
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Rowancroft73 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 22:23
I thought Ulster were excellent today. They had every base covered, esp defensively and were clinical in our red zone.
Sometimes I think as fans (not just polarising it to rugby), we don’t look beyond our own team’s performance.
Why do Chiefs seem to make crucial errors in big games? Why do we give away so many pens in tight games? Rob has again mentioned post match about this which is obvious to all of us.
Is it mentality? Is it that maybe these players aren’t quite at the skill level we need them to be?
Either way, the narrative that Rob is churning out regularly after defeats ‘too many errors, too many pens’, is running thin.
Nonetheless we’ve moved on massively from last season.
But today, well played Ulster. Even a mistake free Chiefs team would’ve done well to win that
Sometimes I think as fans (not just polarising it to rugby), we don’t look beyond our own team’s performance.
Why do Chiefs seem to make crucial errors in big games? Why do we give away so many pens in tight games? Rob has again mentioned post match about this which is obvious to all of us.
Is it mentality? Is it that maybe these players aren’t quite at the skill level we need them to be?
Either way, the narrative that Rob is churning out regularly after defeats ‘too many errors, too many pens’, is running thin.
Nonetheless we’ve moved on massively from last season.
But today, well played Ulster. Even a mistake free Chiefs team would’ve done well to win that
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: ExTeddChief (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 22:23
Well...we had our moments but ultimately well done to the Ulstermen!
We gave them a match in the first half but just collapsed in the second and even the Ulster fans could see that our pack wasn't up to scratch and their pack was on iffy form coming into this!
We gave them a match in the first half but just collapsed in the second and even the Ulster fans could see that our pack wasn't up to scratch and their pack was on iffy form coming into this!
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: Rowancroft73 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2026 23:00
[quote NorthD 4ever]I don't think that Ulster were the better team 
Re: Ulster Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Posted by: DumnoniiNomad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/05/2026 13:54
Quote:Thanks mate. I'm off to celebrate 🥳ouch!_that_hurtsQuote:DumnoniiNomad
Ouch, I think I earned a point this week? Not that it'll make any difference 😂😂
3 actually DN! and if I'd recorded your prediction properly, you'd have got them 😂. I'll add them to next week's table when you accurately predict our 50-point win over Bath
In Rob we trust.
By the way - cream on first. There's nothing to debate.
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