Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview


By Mark W-J
March 30 2011

London Welsh visit Bristol’s Memorial Stadium on Friday night looking to build on last Saturday’s record win over the same opposition in the race for second place in Pool A.  To suggest that Worcester will progress as group winners is not defeatist but realistic, and with our final fixture at Nottingham in a fortnight we have to hope that their try bonus at ODP will not come back to haunt us.

At the midway point in the group stage of the play-offs, Welsh have the second-best attack of the twelve clubs behind Pool B leaders, Cornish Pirates, having scored 125 points and 15 tries (Pirates have 131 and 17 respectively), while the two clubs can also lay claim to the leading individual points scorers, with Gordon Ross and Rob Cook having recorded 50 points apiece.  Worryingly for Bristol, their team has troubled the scoreboard operators less than Gordon, scoring just 49 points in their three defeats, although they did collect a try-bonus in the 43-25 defeat at Nottingham a fortnight ago.  Last Saturday’s 54-9 win was our biggest over Bristol in 76 meetings stretching back 110 years, the previous record (39-14) having stood for barely five months; prior to that our biggest margin of victory was just 21-3, in November 1969, a game described in ‘Dragon in Exile’ as being ‘rugby of a vintage quality… the most sublime performance of the season’.

Our defeat at Sixways and the aforementioned bonus point for Nottingham mean that we still need to claim two wins from our remaining three fixtures, of which two are away from home - and in the other we entertain the Warriors.  The regulations drawn-up in advance of the inaugural Championship campaign state that ‘at any stage of the Season, positions at that stage of the season shall be determined firstly by the number of wins achieved and then on the basis of match points differential’.  At the moment our advantage in points difference over Nottingham is +60, so another high-scoring win at Bristol, combined with a heavy defeat at Worcester for the Green & Whites, would put us firmly in the driving seat for qualification.

But now is not a time for complacency for the Welsh.  Just two months ago at the Mem we suffered our heaviest defeat of the season, losing 23-6 in a game which kick-started Bristol’s great escape from the spectre of the relegation play-offs.  In addition, we’ve lost the last six games we’ve played on a Friday night - at London Irish, Esher, Bedford, and Neath this season, plus the play-off semi-final at Bristol and a B&I cup tie in Ulster last spring.  And our record in league rugby at Bristol is poor - just one win in six visits, 30-18 in February 2004.    Yes, Saturday’s defeat at ODP was a fourth consecutive defeat for Paul Hull’s side, and was not only their second-biggest defeat at level two in the pyramid but also just the second time that they’ve conceded fifty points outside the Premiership, the first being a 68-15 mauling at Sixways during Worcester’s promotion season of 2003-04.  But the Bristol faithful were quick to voice their displeasure on the internet chatrooms, with many suggesting that maybe Hull should move on sooner rather than later, and that those players who have re-signed for next season - almost 20 have agreed deals for another year - should demonstrate the passion and commitment to the jersey which - they hope - will bring better fortunes next season.  The players won’t have enjoyed the post-match comments any more than the supporters enjoyed watching it, and will be fully committed to righting the wrongs of last weekend.

For Welsh, Phil Greening’s comments throughout the winter about the importance of hitting form in the play-offs and not peaking too early have been borne out by two fantastic home wins.  We knew last summer when the squad was taking shape that it wasn’t going to be a team built for grinding out results at Rotherham in December, but was one which would be at home at the beginning and end of the season, on warm, dry days and firm pitches.  Our inability to keep up with Worcester in the three meetings to-date suggests that we’re not ready for promotion yet, but if we can keep scoring tries and breaking records as we did last week then hopefully word will spread around the rugby-watching community of south-west London, and the players may get to play to the audience they deserve - without having to sign for our promotion rivals!  Bristol’s crowds may be dwindling by their standards in proportion to their fortunes on the field, but even their lowest gate this season is almost double our best.  Despite having two football clubs in the city, Bristol is still deemed to be a rugby stronghold in an area which can happily accommodate three Premiership clubs in barely a 15 mile radius.  It’s a proud old club, and while many supporters accept that their place in the modern game may be in the Championship rather than the Premiership, there are many who believe that, with Leeds looking odds-on certainties for relegation, next year could represent their best chance of reclaiming their place in the elite. And what better way to start than by putting London Welsh firmly back in their place?

Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
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Date: 30/03/2011 20:54

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Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2011 12:28

Bristol Rugby team to face London Welsh at the Memorial Stadium on Friday 1 April (7.45pm KO):

Sean Marsden; Anthony Elliott, Jack Tovey, Junior Fatialofa, George Watkins; Mark Davies, Sam Alford; Mark Irish, David Blaney, Jason Hobson, Darren Barry, Roy Winters, Iain Grieve, Jamie Miller, Dan Montagu.

Replacements:
Ollie Hayes, Wayne Thompson, Mariano Sambucetti, Marco Mama, Richard Bolt, Ed Barnes, Jack Adams.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 31/03/2011 12:48

Think we'll get a win down there but it will be quite a different match to the one we saw on Sat.

The Mem is a tough place to visit and playing an evening game under floodlights seems to take some getting used to as well. Weather forecast looking good which is a positive for us.

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Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: WilliamBlessing (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 07:26

Thankyou for an excellent piece of writing. As a Bristol supporter I don't expect the form book to be upset tonight. But who knows?

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 09:08

.....which form book? The one which reads we've only won once there in living memory? the one which reads we won last week so we should do it again this week? Or the one which says no team I support has ever won at the Mem when I've been there?

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 11:16

Quote:
adge1
.....which form book? The one which reads we've only won once there in living memory? the one which reads we won last week so we should do it again this week? Or the one which says no team I support has ever won at the Mem when I've been there?

Feb 2004 was the last away win against Bristol. That's a record that needs to be wiped out today!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 12:03

Won't be easy tonight. However, at this moment in time we are without doubt moving in the right direction with guile, speed of thought, passing skills, running skills, and sheer class. I will be there. C'MON YOU WELSH PADDYTAF (Sm60)(Sm128)

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 18:21

I'm stuck in London, is it online/on the radio at all please?

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: WilliamBlessing (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 19:36

It's on line on Radio Bristol.

Rugby commentary starts at 7.45pm.

Rovers football chat on at the moment..


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Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:09

Bris 0-5 LW (Gibson)

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:10

conv missed

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:13

Bris 0-10 LW (Hills)

conv kick

0-12

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:22

Bris 5 (Watkins) - 12 LW

conv kick

7-12



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Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:32

Bris 7-17 Welsh (Errie)

conv kick

7-19

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:36

half time

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 20:55

Bris 7-22 LW

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:14

Bris 7-27 LW (Ross)

conv kick

7-29

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Newest Sir Benfro (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:24

Listening to the live coverage on Radio Bristol is hysterical... they are only saying how well Brizz are playing !! Obviously forgotten the scoreline

(Sm105)

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:31

Bris 12 (Watkins) - 29 LW

conv kick

14-29

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:35

Bris 14-34 LW (pen try)

conv kick

14-36

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Newest Sir Benfro (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:40

Well done lads.... another 5 ponts !

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2011 21:43

final whistle

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 01:05

Hi everyone, that was a good night if you got through the M4, two and a half hours from 30 miles away.
However the game was over by half time, and the injuries further restricted a flowing game.
Well guys that breaks that particular monkey and a good result achieved by all. One more game to win to secure the position in the group. Wuss next week and an opportunity.



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Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: earlsfieldwelsh (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 10:16

I know the head says that getting promoted might not be the best thing for the club (and its still a long way away) - you can't help getting excited when we are turning in results like the last couple!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 11:22

Quote:
Newest Sir Benfro
Listening to the live coverage on Radio Bristol is hysterical... they are only saying how well Brizz are playing !! Obviously forgotten the scoreline
(Sm105)
Bristol played a particularly canny game, shuffling the ball across field into areas as congested as their ring road. Was it their fault that in trying to press for a score they allowed interceptions for tries? And the charge down was just unfortunate. Bristol made far more tackles than Welsh - another indication that they played a major part in the game - although several of them were thought to be high by the LW supporters, but the ref didn't agree most of the time. The ref incidentally, in his peculiarly effete way, was adept at making curious decisions. So, Welsh got the win and the bonus point, but surely all the LW players shaking hands with all the LW supporters after the final whistle was just plain showing off? Anybody would think they're going for promotion.winking smiley

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 12:03

The match report from Bristol's perspective [www.rugbynetwork.net] suggests Welsh conceded quite a few penalties and were lucky not to be nicked for others. Has anyone got the penalty count for both sides? When Welsh are up against Worcester, Goode will snap up any points going, so we will need to be disciplined. Here's hoping we beat Nottingham and give a good scare to Worcester too.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 13:50

adge 1. All of the players who were shaking hands with the supporters were doing this as a thank you to us for our continued support, and not as you say showing off. I for one was more than happy to shake their hands to congratulate them. Last night's result was without doubt top draw. And has finally put to bed this monkey of struggling to win at the Memorial Ground. Very well done LONDON WELSH PADDYTAF(Sm60)(Sm128)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152).

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 14:14

oh dear.....do you take everything seriously paddytaf?

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: Crug Mawr (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 14:30

Very enjoyable game to watch and pleased with the noise our travelling support made! More of that at ODP please.

Mightily impressed at how much stronger our pack is looking at this stage of the season.

It was great to see the team so fired up and while the players always ackmowledge the travelling support you could see this win was a big one.

Great performance, great win and looking forward to the challenge of Worcester now.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 15:02

Spoke to one player after the home win against Bristol and his first comment was that he had never won at The Mem and was determined to be on the winning team this time.

I guess the same applied to a few of our team and this was one reason why the victory meant so much to them.

No idea what the penalty count was but it seemed high for both of the teams.

Difficult to single out individual performs. The pack were goods in both the right and the loose. Aled had another confident game at FB, the wings and centres were always looking to attack and Ross and Runciman got the line moving very effectively.

Well done to all the supporters that were able to make the trip and battled the horrendous traffic on the M4. A long journey and late return but well worth the effort.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 15:17

Quote:
nld
The pack were goods in both the right and the loose.
Extra strong cooking sherry today?

Re: Bristol v London Welsh - Play-Off Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2011 15:55

Quote:
adge1
Quote:
nld
The pack were goods in both the right and the loose.
Extra strong cooking sherry today?

Bloody predictive text!

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