Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview


By Mark W-J
April 28 2011

The race for promotion from the Championship has reached the semi-final stage, both games being broadcast live by Sky Sports on Sunday.  London Welsh face the Cornish Pirates at the Mennaye, and you could be forgiven for thinking that our clubs are fighting for the right to be public enemy number one in the final as we try to stop Worcester from reclaiming their rightful place in the Premiership.

The play-off system has its critics - and even its supporters would have to admit that it isn’t perfect - but one positive (in a roundabout fashion) has been the amount of coverage the Championship has received over the last few weeks.  Some Worcester fans, aggrieved by the thought of their club being denied promotion by a team which cannot be promoted due to their failure to meet the stringent entry criteria set by the Premiership cartel, have argued - in all seriousness - that their team should be awarded a walkover in the final.  And in last week’s Rugby Times their Chief Feature Writer, Neale Harvey, wrote: ‘Could you imagine a situation whereby a side winning its Championship play-off at Wembley was unable to take its place in the Premier League?  It would not occur.  It is unthinkable.’  Yet what he conveniently overlooked was the fact that the FA Premier League does not construct such ludicrous barriers to entry to preclude the likes of Blackpool or Burnley from taking their place - earned on the pitch, on merit - at the top table.  Tony Rowe’s criticism of certain Premiership venues included the revelation that a Premier Rugby auditor was dispatched to Sandy Park to ensure that each individual urinal is spaced a minimum of 60cm from its neighbour.  If that is the case, then in the unlikely event of Welsh winning promotion and nominating Twickenham as our proposed ‘home’ venue then HQ would most likely fail to meet the criteria.

Harvey continued: ‘And yet rugby allows a system in which three of the four semi-finalists have little incentive other than to knock out the one side that could actually make it to the top and do justice to the achievement of winning the league’.  Tell that to the sell-out crowd at the Mennaye this weekend.  Both clubs are confident of their ability to compete with the Warriors over the two legs of the final, and neither set of players or coaches will be going out in the semi-final or final with anything other than victory in mind.  It’s true that Worcester have been the dominant force in the Championship this season, but as we all know the structure of our season is all about peaking in April and May, not rewarding dominance throughout the winter: and who’s to say that Pirates, Welsh - or Bedford, for that matter - haven’t been pacing themselves, plotting and building to this point since the end of August?  And with support for the Stadium For Cornwall gathering pace it’s possible that our hosts may be in a position for a viable promotion challenge within a couple of years, so success in this season’s play-offs would generate considerable momentum, particularly on the back of the 20th anniversary this month of Cornwall’s 29-20 win over Yorkshire in the County Championship final at Twickenham.

The Pirates’ supporters seem quite bullish about their prospects this weekend, and it’s easy to see where their optimism stems from.  They earned a home semi-final by virtue of their 100% record in the pool stages; they finished one place and eight points above us in third position in Stage One of the league season; they beat us convincingly (22-3) on our last visit way back on the first weekend of September, while claiming a losing bonus-point in a 23-16 defeat at ODP two months later; they inflicted Worcester’s only defeat in 28 league fixtures thus far (23-21 at Sixways); and in Rob Cook they possess the Championship’s top points scorer, the full-back having amassed 336 points (nine tries, 60 conversions, 56 penalties and a drop-goal).  And yet Welsh have their own reasons to travel with confidence.  As Phil Greening had promised throughout the winter, we seemed to reach the play-offs in peak condition, and only an inopportune gust of wind prevented us from beating Worcester in the last game of the season at ODP; Gordon Ross, now fully recovered from the injury which blighted much of his season, had the best points-per-game average in the three play-off pools, collecting 76 points in five matches (av. 15.2) to Cook’s 74 (also from five games, av. 14.8); and while our 25 tries in the play-offs is only the fourth best (behind the other three semi-finalists) we conceded just 13, second only to Worcester who conceded a mere eight - four of them to the Welsh.

In a semi-final between two very evenly-matches sides discipline will be key.  Pirates had only one player sin-binned in the group stages, hooker Dave Ward spending the final ten minutes of the campaign on the sidelines at Doncaster, while Welsh lost Shawn Pittman in the home win over Bristol and Mike Powell at Nottingham in round six - both being binned in the opening 10 minutes.  In Pool A there were a total of 17 yellow cards and one red, with Bristol, Nottingham and Worcester having the worst records of the 12 clubs in the pool stages; by contrast there were only four yellow cards shown in the 12 fixtures in Pool B, with Doncaster receiving two and Bedford none at all.  This Sunday’s referee, David Rose - who is apparently loathed by the good burghers of Sixways and the Mennaye, but was praised by Phil Greening for his handling of our pool match at Worcester - officiated in two games in the pool stages, showing a yellow card to Bees’ Mark Hopley in their defeat at Plymouth and awarding two penalty tries - one to Plymouth and one to the Welsh.

Despite the Pirates having home advantage many observers believe that Sunday’s semi-final is too close to call.  Welsh, of course, bowed-out of the promotion race at this same stage last season, losing 28-15 at Bristol.  Furthermore, while our hosts didn’t emerge from the group stages last year they do have a proven record in knockout rugby, having won the EDF National Trophy in 2007 (beating Exeter 19-16 at Twickenham) and are, for another seven days, the holders of the British & Irish Cup following their 23-16 win over Munster A at Camborne Rec last May.  In league meetings in Cornwall we’ve won three and lost five, but we’d won on our last three visits prior to this season.  In 2008 and 2009 those fixtures were the Pirates’ final home game of the season, and last year it was their last home game of the ‘main’ part of the Championship season.  If we win on Sunday it will signal the end of their 2010-11 campaign - coincidence or fate?

Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
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Date: 28/04/2011 20:36

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Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2011 08:54

Mark W-J. As always so much information with incredible detail you are without doubt a legend. PADDYTAF (Sm60)(Sm128)(Sm152)

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2011 17:50

Too close to call - tight discipline will be key; also making tackles effective first time without requiring a supporter; snappy accurate passing (L Scottish and Launceston gave a good demo last Saturday); restrained use of kicking away possession; line-out effectiveness; and luck.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2011 19:29

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Mark W-J. As always so much information with incredible detail you are without doubt a legend. PADDYTAF (Sm60)(Sm128)(Sm152)

Thank you, Paddytaf. And may I say you are a man of impeccable taste!

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Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 29/04/2011 20:03

And a Happy 40th Birthday to Mark for Sunday!

Hopefully your birthday present will be the chance to write previews for two more fixtures this season....

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 17:32

Pirates

15 Rob Cook
14 Rhodri McAttee
13 Matt Hopper
12 Tom Luke
11 Nick Jackson
10 Jonny Bentley
9 Gavin Cattle (c)
1 Paul Andrew
2 Dave Ward
3 Alan Paver
4 Mike Myerscough
5 Ben Gulliver
6 Chris Morgan
7 Sam Betty
8 Laurie McGlone

16 Carl Rimmer
17 Rob Elloway
19 Phil Burgess
18 Kyle Marriott
20 James Doherty
22 Steve Winn
21 Drew Locke

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 17:39

London Welsh

15 Aled Thomas
14 Liam Gibson
13 Hudson Tonga'uiha
12 Simon Whatling
11 Errie Claassens
10 Gordon Ross
9 Rob Lewis
1 Shawn Pittman
2 Vili Ma'asi
3 Lorne Ward
4 Mike Powell
5 Matt Corker
6 Jonathan Mills (c)
7 Mike Hills
8 Ben Russell

16 Saul Tuelson
17 Max Lahiff
18 Martin Purdy
19 Lee Beach
20 Ben Stevenson
21 Dominic Shabbo
22 Marland Yarde

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 17:56

Pirates player yellow carded

TMO no try

Pirates 0-3 LW



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Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 18:00

Pirates 3-3 LW

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 18:04

Pirates 3-8 LW (Corker)

conv kick

3-10

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 18:31

LW Pittman yellow card

Half time



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Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 19:14

Pirates (Cattle) 8-10 LW

conv kick

10-10

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 19:20

Pirates 13-10 LW

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 19:26

Pirates 18-10 LW

conv missed

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Blackheath Welsh (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 19:31

Final whistle

Pirates 10-10 LW

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Tony_At_Wuss (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2011 20:16

Bad luck, guys - I thought you were going to win. You played better than we did, and we won whilst you lost.

Good luck for next season - you have given us some great games this year.

Deja vu? I've seen it all before

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Cornish Knocker 2 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2011 06:43

Well played to Welsh, they put in an awesome effort, their defence was fantastic. Hope everyone who came down had a good trip and enjoyed themselves - it was a great atmosphere despite the weather - guess what; Blue skys in Camborne this morning!

As for those on the night sleeper, I hope you had a restful trip once the train got out of Cornwall!

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Ellie Crisell (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2011 08:26

We watched it on telly.

Gutted.

No disrespect to the Pirates, but we should've taken them today.

Semi final this season, semi final last season. Let's go one better next season, whilst making sure our urinals are at least 60cm apart.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2011 09:30

"a restful trip once the train got out of Cornwall" Huw led a bit of a singsong, so I was relieved to dismount at Truro.

An exciting game to watch and a great season overall - thanks boys. I'm hoarse! We suffered from knocks during the match which required substitutions whereas all the Pirates substitutions were all unforced. We desperately missed Josh (and Errie went off at half-time) and the sides were close enough for that to have made the difference.

The grass was long, the skies lowering (and had emptied so it was not going to be a fast summer-running match). The Pirates supporter next to me said Pirates had sacrificed scrum weight for speed and they did indeed seem mobile.

Losing Pittman for the first 10 or so minutes of the second half didn't cost us any points, but possibly took its toll both on morale and the energies of the forwards as we slightly lost focus for a period. Once they had an 18-10 lead, we were, possibly, lucky they did not run away with it worse than the final score 18-10. The ref seemed OK (not that you would know it from the noise from my section of the Pirates crowd) though I thought one touch judge was a little immobile when it came to running the line. Overall a game was played in good spirit (as viewed from my vantage point behind a pillar) - will we visit Mennaye Field again for some years to come, or will they be in Truro soon?

I gather JT had recognition problems at the clubhouse - obviously being a successful British Lion doesn't count for much these days, sic transit gloria mundi.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: LadockPirate (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2011 11:00

For 60mins yesterday I was wondering where our win would come from. Welsh's "wall of red" defense was holding firm, our 9 and 10 were having indifferent games and the wet conditions stopped us from playing our natural expansive games. But for a couple of sparks of brilliance from Gav Cattle we'd be licking our wounds this morning and wishing you well in the final. Congrats for yesterdays clean contest.

Either way we'll enjoy playing you again next season. Trips to ODP are always enjoyable and the games close. Cheers - LP

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Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2011 13:12

Thought the Pittman sin binning was crucial to the outcome. It enabled the Pirates to comeout for the second half at full tilt and we never again were on the front foot. Good game, great weekend. See our Kiwi target at Redruth scored a hat trick too....

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: TC08 (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2011 11:54

Very enjoyable evening at the Mennaye....apart from the result. We kept the Pirates supporters quiet till they got the break to go level.

No arguments on the final score, although the Pitman YC was apparently a bit of a mystery to all involved, and may have been crucial in the event.

Bit disappointed to hear Pirates coach and skipper say that they had targetted our last 15 mins and seconfd half blindside defence as being our weaknesses, as I'd have thought we were one of the fitter teams in the Division and our defence in general this season has been excellent.

That's certainly been one of the best LW teams I've had the pleasure to have watched; definitely best in the "professional" era.

Great season, guys; thanks.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: david evans (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2011 13:46

Had a great weekend with the family except for the result. Also had the added bonus of only having to put up with Huw Barrington for a couple of minutes as we were on opposite sides of the ground!

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/05/2011 00:09

Couldn't hear Huw at the match, which is certainly a first.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: RPB (IP Logged)
Date: 04/05/2011 13:40

Maybe the ref got every decision right.......even then...

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/05/2011 10:20

Quote:
DanFW3
" The ref seemed OK (not that you would know it from the noise from my section of the Pirates crowd) though I thought one touch judge was a little immobile when it came to running the line."
.....rather odd that the ref was a local(ish) man and one of the TJs instructs the Pirates on the finer points of the laws regularly..... elsewhere and at another time that could lead to complications, but absolutely no complaints about the result at all.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Mrs Woll (IP Logged)
Date: 06/05/2011 07:54

Mr Rose is a Plymouth man (Devon) and has never done us any favours in the past. Our Piratical hearts sank when he was appointed to the SF.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/05/2011 10:54

Have got no quible about his integrity or ability - I think he's one of the better refs in the business. My point was entirely about the precedent set for future 'crunch' games. It may have been preferable to use a ref (and a TJ - you must agree the appointment of Mr Leyshon was an odd one?) from somewhere further afield. You wouldn't want to be playing Leicester in the Prem in a couple of years time reffed by a chap from Oadby or somewhere who just happens to pop in to the Leicester training ground once a week would you?

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: TC08 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/05/2011 10:58

I thought we got the rub of the green in the first half, up to the point of the YC for Pittman just on HT. I understand that it was a fairly clear call from the TJ, and the incident certainly was close enough to the line for him to have had a clear view, so no complaints there.

And I was pleased to hear the Pirates coach say that he thought Mr Rose and his team had had a good game, in difficult conditions, when interviewed after the match. He particularly mentioned that he thought he'd done well, despite the views expressed by some of the more vocal Pirates supporters in the first half. Nice to hear.

Re: Cornish Pirates v London Welsh - Semi-Final Preview
Posted by: Mrs Woll (IP Logged)
Date: 06/05/2011 12:35

I thought Mr Rose had a fair game. We didn't seem to get pinged by him quite as often as he seems to usually do. Perhaps our lads are learning how to read him better. But in every rugger crowd up and down the land, there will be people shouting at the ref. I'm not one of them; always try to remember he's closer to the action than I am.

Your chaps played a blinder and I don't think I had any fingernails left after the first half! Well played Welsh and we'll see you next season! (Sm128)

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