Bristol v London Welsh Preview


By Mark W-J
October 20 2011

Last weekend started so promisingly for supporters of Wales and London Welsh, as both anticipated success on a scale not seen for almost a quarter of a century.  But one dodgy tackle in Auckland and a series of missed tackles in Richmond left us sobbing in our beer - in the bowls club - on Saturday evening; Friday offers both teams a shot at redemption and a chance to climb back up the rankings.

Wales’ defeat to France saw the team drop to places from a best-ever world ranking of 4th, behind our Gallic cousins and - unbelievably - England.  The Exiles, meanwhile, were replaced at the summit in the Championship by Bristol, who seem to have turned a corner after a year of crushing disappointment and a season of under achievement and rebuilding.  Our trip to the Memorial Stadium pitches first against second, and will be televised on Sky Sports 2, our fifth live appearance in just under 18 months.  The first was also at Bristol in the 2009-10 play-off semi-final, a game which the home side deservedly won 28-15, after recovering from Dom Shabbo’s first minute try.  Our record in front of the Sky cameras isn’t good - played four, won one, lost three.  The win came in the only home game of the four - 48-26 versus Nottingham in round one of last season’s play-offs - while, for those of you looking for an omen, that was also the only one of the four fixtures to have been played on a Saturday.  Our last two meetings withBristol were also in last year’s play-off pool; a 54-9 win at ODP on the last weekend of March followed by a 36-14 away victory on April Fools’ Day.  While Bristol did manage a 29-19 win over Nottingham the following week, they finished their campaign with an 81-13 thrashing at Worcester, although some pride was restored with victory over Bedford in the final of the B&I Cup.

This season has seen many changes at the Mem, with Liam Middleton stepping up from Academy Manager to replace Paul Hull as Head Coach.  It’s difficult to criticise Hull, who is one of the great club servants of the modern era, but there was a distinct impression that the club had stagnated under his leadership, and the announcement midway through last season that he’d be leaving at the end of the campaign seemed to backfire as the team stumbled into the promotion play-offs before appearing to run out of steam.  This season, however, has been a different story.  Six wins from seven see Bristol back on top of the Championship, three points ahead of Welsh.  Their only defeat came at Leeds (12-11) in round three, while they’re one of only two teams to have taken at least a point from all of their games to-date,Rotherhambeing the other.  With only 95 points and seven tries conceded they have by far the meanest defence in the league, but 175 points and 19 tries scored gives them only the fourth-best attacking stats.  By contrast Welsh have the second-best defence - 133 points and 12 tries conceded - and the best attacking record, with 215 points and 27 tries scored.

Bristol’s attacking threat clearly comes for their three-quarters, who have contributed 12 of the team’s 19 tries; Jack Tovey is top-scorer with five, closely followed by George Watkins on four, while Matt Williams, who scored 16 tries for Doncaster last term, has two.  Our own Ed Jackson is still the division’s top scorer, maintaining his try-per-game average with the opening score againstRotherhamlast weekend, while full-back Edd Thrower has joined Seb Jewell on three tries.  Welsh and Bedford have each had tries scored by thirteen different players (we’ve also had one penalty try), whereas Esher and Rotherham have had only six try-scorers each - and Esher have only scored six tries all season.  They haven’t crossed the whitewash in their last three games, losing 37-3 to Welsh, 12-3 to Rotherham, and 20-6 at home toBristollast Saturday. Bristol’s two tries were both scored while their hosts were down to 14 men, with first lock Mike Blakeburn and then former LW & Bedford prop Robin Boot spending 10 minutes in the bin.

After suffering the heartbreak of the promotion play-off against Exeter just under 18 months ago, many Bristol fans seem happy to accept that their club has now consolidated in the Championship.  Crowds are up slightly on last season, with an average of 4,250 from the three home games to-date, and the supporters are enjoying a reasonable standard of rugby without the fears of financial ruin which have haunted the club on-and-off for over a decade.  Like Bedford - the second-best supported club in the league - they’ve got a set-up which proves that a loyal fanbase, quality yet unsung players, and half-decent facilities are enough to support a proper rugby club, where winning is important - but survival is priceless.

 

Photographs from Bristol's visit to ODP in 2010/11:

 

 

 

Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: The Dragons\\\' Den (IP Logged)
Date: 20/10/2011 09:36

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Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 20/10/2011 09:57

Bristol Rugby team to face London Welsh on Friday 21st October at the Memorial Stadium (7.45pm KO):

Sean Marsden; George Watkins, Jack Tovey, Junior Fatialofa, Matt Williams; Matty James, Tom Slater; Darren Crompton, Rhys Lawrence, Jason Hobson, Mariano Sambucetti, Roy Winters, Josh Ovens, James Merriman, Iain Grieve (c).

Replacements: Ross Johnston, Mark Irish, Darren Barry, Dan Montagu, Louis Silver, Mark Davies, Ben Mosses.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Dragons' Den (IP Logged)
Date: 20/10/2011 11:54

London Welsh: 15. Edd Thrower, 14. Will Hurrell, 13. Hudson Tonga’uiha*, 12. Simon Whatling, 11. Liam Gibson, 10. Gordon Ross*, 9. Rob Lewis, 1. Guillermo Roan, 2. Dan George, 3. Greg Bateman, 4. Adam Brown, 5. Martin Purdy, 6. Jon Mills ©, 7. Mike Denbee, 8. Ed Jackson.

Replacements: 16. Saul Nelson, 17. Billy Moss, 18. Shawn Pittman*, 19. Matt Corker, 20. Lee Beach, 21. Jack Moates, 22. Seb Jewell.

Link: [www.london-welsh.co.uk]

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 20/10/2011 12:22

Five forwards on the bench and one of the two back replacements is a scrum half. That's quite some reaction to being out-muscled against Rotherham!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: alcoholic (IP Logged)
Date: 20/10/2011 13:17

Nice little preview there MWJ. Some interesting info.

Although I don't think we can compare last seasons play-off results to any outcome this season. As you've eluded the Bristol team for this season is a different beast to last seasons, despite the majority of the squad being the same.

Good luck tomorrow night.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Newest Sir Benfro (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 20:47

The Sky coverage is so one sided... Mike Friday has a chip on his shoulder the size of Goscar rock... Come on Welsh!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Newest Sir Benfro (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 21:38

Aaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 22:08

Great perfomance guys, keep going, bristol were pants and forwaRds need to get grip, the're kiLling us! But this is a long gaMe not a short game! Second period needs some work as we had no front foot ball!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 22:10

Great perfomance guys, keep going, bristol were pants and forwaRds need to get grip, the're kiLling us! But this is a long gaMe not a short game! Second period needs some work as we had no front foot ball!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Hoopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 22:11

bristol were Pants ???? but they won ????

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: Hoopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 21/10/2011 22:12

Imagine when they start playing well ?????

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: earlsfieldwelsh (IP Logged)
Date: 22/10/2011 03:05

Sounds similar to - imagine how good Wales will be be when they start playing well. Going on both sides performances this evening, I'm not getting too excited.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: GvK (IP Logged)
Date: 22/10/2011 06:52

Dreadful defence yesterday to allow two/three of Bristol's tries. Why was the team wearing lime green socks?? Did someone forget to pack the correct kit and borrow them or could only buy those revolting socks from a local shop in Bristol? Or was it something to do with one of the sponsors Climatecars whose logo appears to be lime green?

If it is the latter then I think it is a very sad day that London Welsh colours are being changed to suit a sponsor. In the early days of Div 1 we had Birmingham and Solihull changing their name to Pertenps bees because of their main sponsor. I hope this won't happen at LWRFC!

Leave the kit alone please!!!!!



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Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 22/10/2011 08:02

Absolutely agree about the socks. Red shirt, white shorts, red socks - really not too much to hope for! They were hideous. Wonder if the winners of the sponsorship raffle realised that their logos wouldn't be added in time to get the TV exposure?

Second time this season that they've failed to close out a game and then concede a last minute try. Lyn Jones didn't seem too concerned and the players were laughing and joking as they left the pitch so at least they enjoyed their day out....

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 22/10/2011 17:29

Apparently pirates thought our forwards didn't look fit enough to go a full 80! Certainly they are not controLling the game as they have been, this is the area that concerns me most and our ability to move the ball fast from the base of rucks, mauls and scrums!

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2011 00:53

It was a cracking game, tense to the end, even with the sad outcome. All credit to Welsh for a very good show. I thought Martin Purdy had a good game, and was a good ball-winner in the lineouts. Lewis also impressed as did Hudson.

We lost by one kick drifting slightly to the left of the posts. If it had not been for that they would have had to score twice at the end which was beyond them. Our tackling when Bristol was on the break however was poor by comparison with our defence in close quarters play, with three ineffective tackles in a row letting in one try at the north end.

Does nobody teach the flying tackle any more? In a pursuit you lose speed if you reach ahead of you to tackle a fast running player and will invariably fail. A man running flat out for the line is rarely jinking as he runs if there is nobody ahead of him so a flying tackle should get the man, With a flying tackle you have a chance = just one, it is true - of not only bringing the man down but also obliging him to release the ball as he breaks his fall.

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2011 17:33

So we finish the weekend in fourth place with second-placed Pirates visiting ODP next Saturday. A 'must win' to prove the team can beat those in the top half of the league.

Anyone notice the traditional letters on Bristol's kit, but on the front near the badge? The good old days....

Re: Bristol v London Welsh Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/10/2011 18:54

I predict every Championship side will finish within 3 places of their current place in the table, and suspect half will end where they are now. We are post the 1/3 way so this is not too rash a prediction. We have taken two points of the side in top place and one off the side just above us, and were not humiliated by the side just below. That suggests our 4th place is not far from being right. Instinct suggests Doncaster may gain a place, and Leeds likewise, but those are within my basic prediction.

The Pirates match will indeed be pivotal and it would be good to see a really large turnout this coming weekend. Perhaps Scottish and Esher supporters should come up and see how it's done (making hog-roast).

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