London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!


By Mark W-J
December 22 2011

For London Welsh, 2011 draws to a closed with two home fixtures over the festive period.  On Boxing Day we entertain our neighbours fromEsher, while our visitors on New Year’s Eve are Moseley.  With both clubs currently in the bottom four, these are the kind of fixtures which should give the home support plenty of Christmas cheer – but London Welsh fans know better than to make rash predictions.

To most London Welsh supporters, Boxing Day is - and always will be - synonymous with Stradey Park.  Our first Christmas tour, in 1885, took in Swansea on Christmas Eve, Newport on Boxing Day, a South Wales XV again at Newport on the 28th, finishing at Cardiff on the 30th, while our first visit to Llanelli was on Christmas Eve 1886.  The fixture didn’t switch to Boxing Day until after the Second World War, and continued on that date for almost half a century until the advent of professionalism saw league fixtures take priority. Esher adopted their Black and Amber jerseys at the insistence of one of their founding members who was from Newport, so there’s an element of symmetry in meeting them on the anniversary of our first visit to Rodney Parade.

This hasn’t been a happy season for Mike Schmid’s team, who are rooted to the bottom of the Championship with just two points from 14 fixtures, 35 points behind eighth-placed Doncaster.  Consequently, should the Knights gain one point more from their local derby at home to Leeds than our visitors earn at Old Deer Park, then Esher’s involvement in the relegation play-offs will become a mathematical certainty.  They had to wait until round 11 to secure their first point in a 15-20 home defeat to Leeds, while they scored four tries in losing 22-34 to Nottingham a fortnight later.  In the autumn they went 254 minutes without scoring a try, failing to cross the whitewash against London Welsh (3-37), Rotherham (3-12) andBristol(6-20), and they haven’t collected a single point on their travels since their penultimate play-off fixture a tPlymouth in April.

Many observers felt that Esher were hard done by when they were relegated from the old National One at the end of the 2008-09 season despite finishing 12th of 16 clubs; with 61 points they were 27 points clear of 13th-placed Sedgley Park yet 30 adrift of the Welsh in sixth.  But the RFU’s plans for the had been steamrollered through, and they were replaced by Birmingham Solihull, who had collected 111 points from 30 games in finishing top of National Two.  Twelve months later Esher returned, with 135 points from 29 games (a dead-rubber at Cinderford which had been postponed in the bleak mid-winter was not rearranged); Sam Ulph scored 399 points in 24 appearances, including 51 in the 148-0 demolition of Manchester on the opening day of the season.  Seb Jewell was the division’s top try-scorer with 23 from 25 appearances, including six in the rematch at Manchester, while he also kicked 50 points, including eleven conversions from 14 attempts in a 92-0 win over Otley in March.

Sam was their top points scorer again last year with 163, ahead of another London Welsh Old Boy, Mike Whitehead, who is now plying his trade at Doncaster: between them they kicked 17 points in our 22-19 defeat at Moseley Road on that wet and windy Friday night back in October 2010, while Sam scored 12 of their 17 points in the return at ODP last Christmas, including his only try of the league part of the season.  Gerard Mullen, still yet to make a league appearance since his summer move to ODP, was joint-top try-scorer last term with six, while this season only two players – Canadian centre Phil Mackenzie with four and former Donny winger Andy Wright (two) – have dotted down more than once.  On paper this game looks like a straight-forward home win – Esher have never won at ODP in six previous visits – but we’ve twice been turned over at Moseley Road when expected to comfortably beat our hosts and they’ll be keen to avenge that 37-3 defeat on a much more balmy Friday evening three months back.

And so to New Year’s Eve, and the visit of Moseley.  Having won just twice in the opening twelve rounds - at home to Esher and Bristol– they’ve recorded back-to-back wins in the league (excluding play-offs) for the first time in 23 months, beating Doncaster 17-15 and grabbing a try-bonus at Esher (29-14) last time out.  Those results took them up to 9th, leap-frogging Plymouth and London Scottish, and they entertain our fellow Exiles on Boxing Day.  That win over Bristol marks them down as a dangerous team, regardless of the fact that we racked-up our biggest score of the season so far in winning 41-16 at Billesley Common in October, a result which put us on top of the Championship for the first time.  For some reason, however, our attack has dried-up since then, with just two try-bonus points scored in the last eight rounds - at Bristol and Plymouth - compared with four from the opening six.  And while we’ve won the last eight meetings in the league, Moseley’s last win at ODP came just twelve months ago when they overcame a 21-5 half-time deficit with three second-half tries to claim a 24-21 win (with bonus point) in the B&I Cup.

Having already beaten two of the top eight, and with both London Scottish and Plymouth to visit Billesley in the next month, Moseley are suddenly looking up at the promotion play-offs.  The top eight seemed to be cut-and-dried a few weeks back, but their win over Doncaster allied to the fact that the top sides are all taking points from one another week after week has seen the gap between eighth and ninth remain at 14 points.  To put that another way, Doncaster are as close to the leaders, Bristol, as they are to the team behind them, Moseley, but whereas the gap to the leaders is increasing with each round the relegation-threatened clubs are refusing to be shaken off.  Admittedly time is running out - eight rounds to go over the next two months - but whoever loses the Yorkshire derby at Castle Park on Boxing Day will be looking nervously at results below them.

Elsewhere in the Championship this Christmas, leaders Bristol entertain second-placed Bedford at 6.15pm on Friday 23rd (Sky have a lot to answer for…) while over the New Year holiday Bristol travel to fourth-placed Nottingham and fifth-placed Pirates will be following a star to Goldington Road.  With home games against teams currently marooned in the relegation play-offs, teams from whom we collected the maximum ten points in the away fixtures in early-autumn, Welsh should be looking to establish ourselves as one of the leading teams in the Championship moving into 2012.  No team has really grabbed the division by the scruff of the neck this season, but for those with serious aspirations - of whom we profess to be one – it’s time to stand up and be counted.  Merry Christmas everyone!

 

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London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
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Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
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Date: 22/12/2011 13:40

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Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 22/12/2011 13:49

Mark W-J. As always a first class preview or should i say double preview. A very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. Hope to see you at ODP on Boxing Day. PADDYTAF. (Sm60)(Sm128)

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 22/12/2011 15:46

A reminder that there is a tube strike on Boxing Day.

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Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: CwmRheidol (IP Logged)
Date: 22/12/2011 16:07

It appears there is no train service from Waterloo either,as far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm this?

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 22/12/2011 17:13

The LW travel correspondent has emailed me to confirm that there are no trains on Boxing Day either.

I believe that there is a limited bus service though!

(Chelsea playing at home that afternoon in case it affects anyone making their way through that part of town)

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 22/12/2011 22:42

The facts are that there are no trains or buses at all on Boxing Day even without the tube strike. I'm hoping to get to ODP but i will have to drive with the added problem i have to encounter all the traffic that will be heading to Kempton Park. Who is or are the idiots that chose Boxing Day to have this fixture played. It should have remained on Christmas Eve as this day had public transport in abundance. PADDYTAF. thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 10:37

Received by email from LW Office to post on here:

Strike action by some Tube drivers in the ASLEF union will
cause significant disruption to Underground services on Boxing
Day.

We will run as many trains as possible, but some lines may
only have a very limited service and some sections may be
closed.

Extra buses will be provided on many routes particularly in
central London.

On the District Line there will be no service between Parsons
Green and Wimbledon.

Replacement buses operate. In addition, the Kensington Olympia
service will not operate.
There is no mention re- District Line to Richmond.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 15:05

There are no buses from my part of the world and if there were any running i would have to leave Guildford at 9am and make no fewer than 6 changes of bus roots. My return journey would have to start at 3.30pm in order for me to get home by 8.30pm if i'm lucky. Somehow i don't think i'll be coming by bus. PADDYTAF. (Sm60)(Sm128)

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 15:23

At least with your bus pass that journey would be free......

Happy Birthday for tomorrow!

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: jjones1131 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 17:35

Sorry.........but 'bus roots' makes me laugh! It is the festive season after all.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 17:36

There was a time when you could get from Guildford to Barnes Common on a Green Line bus in one run (and walk the rest of the way to work off the previous day's indulgences: Green Line Route 715 (the pre-war M1 service) ran between Guildford and Hertford via Ripley, Cobham, Esher, Hinchley Wood, Hook, Malden, Kingston Vale, Barnes Common, Hammersmith, Notting Hill Gate, Marble Arch, Oxford Circus, Camden Town, Finsbury Park, Wood Green, Palmers Green, Enfield Town, Waltham Cross, Cheshunt, Wormley, Hoddesdon and Ware. And you could smoke at the rear of the bus, if that was your vice. Whether it ran on Bank Holidays is anyone's guess. But it no longer runs.

Transport for London site currently says, w.r.t. the District Line: "No service would operate through the central area or on the Richmond, Edgware Road and Olympia branches."

Elsewhere a TfL festive season leaflet says for Boxing Day: "London Overground - No services."
"Buses - From about 0830 a Sunday service will operate
on all routes"

And it's not just trains "A continuing programme of inspection carried out by Transport for London (TfL) on the A4 Hammersmith Flyover has revealed a serious structural defect, which means that the flyover is currently closed and will remain so until at least early January." You can however survive by driving around it.

I'll begin on shank's pony and if a bus service is really running, hop on one. Let's see if the gate exceeds 600.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 18:30

Quote:
jjones1131
Sorry.........but 'bus roots' makes me laugh! It is the festive season after all.

A vital service if the branch lines aren't running.......

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 18:42

Expecting around 8,000 at Bristol tonight and the ground certainly looks very full. A Christmas local derby should be bringing us a crowd numbering close to 2,000 with an allowance that the tube strike might knock a couple of hundred off of that. I'd say that 1,600 should be the absolute minimum that the club aim for this Boxing Day.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 18:55

Thank you nld for your Birthday Wishes. My prediction is 300/400 on Boxing Day. And maybe just maybe yours truly will be there! PADDYTAF. Merry Christmas to all.(Sm24)

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 19:24

8,067* at Bristol tonight despite the very early ko time. Bristol in complete control of the match and look very good.

* according to Statbunker that is more than our total home crowd so far this season.



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Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/12/2011 20:59

Given there can be very few away supporters, that is very impressive and would have led to a considerable atmosphere. I wonder though how many of the admissions were free. For our game down there, a good many were school children in there for nothing I am fairly sure. But even so, the paying attendance was still over 5,000 I think, so the paying attendance will have been well over 7,000. They are increasingly looking set to bounce back to the Premiership - except for the pitfalls of the play-offs.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 24/12/2011 10:52

Nine changes from the cup side:

London Welsh: 15. Edd Thrower, 14. Will Hurrell, 13. Hudson Tonga’uiha*, 12. Seb Jewell, 11. Joe Ajuwa, 10. Gordon Ross ©*, 9. Rob Lewis, 1. Tom French, 2. Vili Ma’asi*, 3. Shawn Pittman*, 4. Adam Brown, 5. Martin Purdy, 6. Ed Siggery 7. Michael Hills, 8. Ed Jackson ©.
Replacements: 16. Nathan Morris, 17. Guillermo Roan, 18. Matt Corker, 19. Ben Russell, 20. Jack Moates, 21. Alex Davies, 22. James Lewis.
* Denotes full international

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/12/2011 18:37

Two captains?

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 10:32

No tube service to Richmond today.

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Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 10:57

I said to someone the other day that I'd be amazed if our aggregate attendance for these two fixtures is over 2k - and when you consider that a fair few of them will be double-counted (ie home supporters attending both fixtures) that's pretty woeful. Am I being unduly negative or realistic?

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 14:56

Let's face it both us & Esher are without doubt the two teams in this league or for that matter any league that nobody wants to watch. Both our crowds & support are utterly woeful. PADDYTAF thumbs upthumbs up

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: RPB (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 16:02

Sadly true PaddyTaf! I couldn't get down today, family commitments! Looks like I missed a pretty poor performance! Roll on Saturday !

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 16:02

I was planning to go today but unfortunately i'm not well or should i say it's thanks that i am unwell the game sounds like a load of rubbish. We are the first team to let Esher gain a draw or was it a case that we were lucky to get a draw? PADDYTAF.(Sm60)(Sm128)

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: rambling sid (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 16:42

Have to say at Bristol we don't normally do free entrances. School children and junior members of club sides come in as part of a match experience which includes an element of coaching a meal and parading round the ground before the match. I think they pay about £10 per head. We hope they want to come back again in the future.

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: CwmRheidol (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 17:44

Not impressive; as Paddytaff suggested, lucky to get a draw

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 18:37

I have just been reading the match report and it seems i was right in suggesting that we were lucky to get a draw. These endless under par performances could have a lot if not everything to do with the fact that we are still at this late stage in the campaign not picking our first choice team. It must be very difficult for the squad members to know from one game to the next who is going to be in the starting 22.

It's all very well having rotation but having 8, 9, 10, and even more changes from game to game borders on the ridiculous. PADDYTAF. thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: gogar (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 19:20

That is pathetic. Some of these expensive players need to start to do their talking ON THE PITCH rather than in meaningless and predictable soundbites on web site.

Happy Christmas!

Re: London Welsh Bumper Christmas & New Year Match Preview!
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 26/12/2011 22:45

Poor first half - especially the failure to capitalise on Esher's simultaneous yellow cards - and then it got worse in the second. Scrum became a mess, attack let down by bad passes and failure to run good lines, defence struggled when Esher broke through the first line. Should have been a 5 point win and we were lucky to get 2.

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