London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B


By Dragons' Den
July 20 2012

A matter of weeks after achieving victory in the appeal hearing it was time for London Welsh to take to the field for their first Premiership action. The JP Morgan 7s provided the competion with Welsh placed in Pool B together with Sale, Northampton and Leicester. Dragons' Den finds that it is not just the opponents that are new!

Welsh turned out in red shirts with a white stripe running vertically up the front and back. It wasn’t just the shirts that were unfamiliar as only one of the squad, Michael Hills, was a London Welsh player.

1. Ben Seru 
2. Gerhard Vessells 
3. Tom Rees 
4. Iolo Evans 
5. Michael Hills (Capt) 
6. Peceli Nacamavuto 
7. Aaron Myers 
8. Rhys Howells 
9. Ed Tellwright 
10. Chris Banfield 
11. Rhodri McAtee 
12. Geraint Walsh 


London Welsh v Sale

Banfield opened the scoring for the Premiership newcomers and the conversion gave an early seven point lead.  This was quickly followed by a fine try by Seru who hugged the touchline as he made a solo break from deep to score in the corner.  Amesbury countered for Sale but the conversion was missed. Welsh managed to retain the ball from the restart and Seru’s second try of the match gave the Exiles a 19-5 half time lead.

Sale started the second half one player down due to a yellow card and Welsh capitalised on this advantage with Michael Hills scoring out wide. The hosts hadn’t given up and two further tries and conversions took the score to 24-19 with two minutes remaining. Welsh closed the game out keeping ball in hand after a penalty and it Banfield who touched down under the posts. The conversion made it 31-19 at full time.


London Welsh v Northampton

London Welsh took the field hoping to extend their unbeaten run since achieving Premiership status! Northampton had also won in the first round of matches and started this match after a very short turnaround from their 26-24 victory over Leicester.

Banfield once again opened the scoring and by the time the match was 3 minutes old Myers had added a further five points with the 50th try of the tournament. A penalty gave Welsh the chance to move the ball quickly and this time it was Tellwright that crossed the line. The easy conversion made it 17-0 at half time.

The second half was brought to life with an brilliant individual run from Tom Rees who started from his on 22 and scored in the corner. Banfield’s try increased the lead to 27-7 before Woolford countered for Saints. The final try of the match was scored by Seru and the conversion added as the clock ticked into the last minute. Final score 34-7.


London Welsh v Leicester

Leicester faced Welsh with only a the briefest of rest periods after their heavy defeat against Sale (50-15). A win for the players in London Welsh shirts would guarantee that they win the pool and go through to the final at Bath. Defeat and they may be nervously watching the final game of the night but it would require them to be on the wrong end of a cricket score.

It wasn’t a great start for London Welsh as they put the kick-off straight into touch. They soon made up for this mistake and patient play eventually found a gap in the Tigers’ defence to allow Tellwright to touch down. The conversion was added. Tellwright scored his second try of the match moments later and Welsh looked comfortable and had a 12-0 lead. Bellack used his pace to avoid Welsh tackles and give Leicester their first points of the game but just before the halftime whistle Tellwright completed his hat-trick to close the half 19-5.  

Try number four for Tellwright within the first minute of the second half and the simple conversion was slotted over. Slick handling and footwork gifted Wessells the space to cross the line under the posts and the conversion gave an 18 point lead. Seru was the next to score after gathering a loose ball that bounced between two Tigers players. He nearly added another but was brought down just short but a couple of passes later and it was former London Welsh youth player McAtee that had the easiest of run-ins. The final try of the game, and London Welsh’s 19th of the evening, was scored by Seru. The conversion took the score to 52-5, gave Welsh top spot in Pool B and a place alongside London Irish and Saracens in the Finals. Runners up in Pool B were tonight's hosts Sale Sharks.


Final: Friday 3rd August, The Recreation Ground, Bath

London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: The Dragon\\\'s Den (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 21:58

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Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: NTF0 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 22:20

Well done to all the players tonight next two weeks time at The Rec in Bath and another trophy for the cabinet will have to build a bigger cabinet thank you to all the players & coaches & everyone else tonight (Sm128)(Sm128)

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 22:25

The main website is at it again. LONDON IRISH and Sarasens qualified from pool A. not Harlequins.
thumbs up PADDYTAF.



"GIVE THEM NO BAL OR BAD BALL WELSH"

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: galliano2001 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/07/2012 23:05

Yeah well done Samurai........

Quote of the evening from one of the Samurai players 'tonight we are representing London Welsh'.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Horus (IP Logged)
Date: 22/07/2012 20:08

What a travesty

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: rm68 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 13:01

A travesty is quite strong, and unsubstantiated.

Given that we didn't know we would be invited to this after other teams what could we have done?

At a more literal level have we broken any rules? Perhaps giving these players a run out could give us greater depth and opps to run rule over players than we would otherwise not have had.

It was a delight to see Welsh on ITV4 last night regardless of the bleating commentary about our selections. Perhaps it was a tactical masterstroke that other clubs missed?

I quite liked the result too. Well done all and keep it up.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Tigersfan1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 14:09

Where are the players from?

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 15:11

Leicester. Northampton. & Sale. (Sm126) PADDYTAF.



"GIVE THEM NO BALL OR BAD BALL WELSH"

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Pembs (IP Logged)
Date: 23/07/2012 23:29

The Leicester gameis on YouTube [">www.youtube.com]
as are the other games from that night

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Horus (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2012 14:20

travesty df. (OED) "absurd or inferior imitation". Seems to sum up Samurai +1 LW player as a LW team.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Y Drenewydd (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2012 15:10

Yawn...

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: casual13 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/07/2012 10:55

Quote:
rm68
A travesty is quite strong, and unsubstantiated.
Given that we didn't know we would be invited to this after other teams what could we have done?

At a more literal level have we broken any rules? Perhaps giving these players a run out could give us greater depth and opps to run rule over players than we would otherwise not have had.

It was a delight to see Welsh on ITV4 last night regardless of the bleating commentary about our selections. Perhaps it was a tactical masterstroke that other clubs missed?

I quite liked the result too. Well done all and keep it up.

1. Travesty is quite weak!
2. You could have given your club members a run-out and bowed out graciously
3. Whilst you might not "have broken any rules" you have certainly burst the spirit of the competition for the real club rugby supporter.
I can only imagine the clamour from (L,Welsh?) supporters if a real premiership club had gone out and given 11 of their valued club shirts to an external group of 7s professionals!

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 31/07/2012 11:17

Pointless spat. I'm going to Bath to cheer our London Welsh player and his team-mates and to watch some exciting Sevens rugby. Frankly withering away about the Samurai element is silly, as what we all enjoy is running passing body-swerving rugby. Let's see if all these armchair whingers turn out on the night.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 31/07/2012 12:24

A handful of people have had a pop at LW for devaluing the competition and defrauding the sponsors and punters, but I don't hear anyone criticising Leicester for picking a guy who had never even played a game of rugby before and was, in fact, competing in the 400m at Crystal Palace seven days previously.

Burst the spirit of the competition? It's a Mickey Mouse pre-season jolly, created because the 'guest' teams (including Samurai and the Army) had stolen the Middlesex Sevens from under the noses of the Premiership clubs - who, it should not be forgotten, had hijacked the event in the first place. The aggregate attendance for the first three rounds must be less than 15k - the punters and the clubs all know it doesn't matter.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 31/07/2012 12:27

1. Travesty is quite weak!
2. You could have given your club members a run-out and bowed out graciously
3. Whilst you might not "have broken any rules" you have certainly burst the spirit of the competition for the real club rugby supporter.
I can only imagine the clamour from (L,Welsh?) supporters if a real premiership club had gone out and given 11 of their valued club

Casual13. I can see the point in your moan & groan about us LONDON WELSH not using our club members or only one player from our squad. The reason for this was we had intended in giving the other teams a glimmer of hope in qualifying for the finals. Had we fielded our squad members then there would have been no hope at all in the other teams coming anywhere near to beating us.(Sm126) PADDYTAF.



"GIVE THEM NO BALL OR BAD BALL WELSH"



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Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: davidcaldwell (IP Logged)
Date: 31/07/2012 16:14

Had we given our club members a run out that would have definitely been a travesty...

I will admit to being an "absurd or inferior imitation" of a professional rugby player!

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 01/08/2012 09:56

Squad for Friday:
1. Elliott Brierley
2. Hamish Smales
3. Tom Rees
4. Lolo Evans
5. Steve Hamilton
6. Peceli Nacamavuto
7. Ben Frankland
8. Ryan De La Harpe
9. Ed Tellwright
10. Chris Banfield
11. Ashley Smith
12. Steve Wood

Ashley Smith is this week's token LW player.
Brierley and Hamilton have been at Rotherham, and Hamilton also had spells with Blackheath & Nottingham
Frankland and Smales have played for 'top international Sevens team HFW Wailers', alongside one Joe Ajuwa.
De La Harpe is the Moseley & Namibia scrum-half, played at RWC last year.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Crug Mawr (IP Logged)
Date: 01/08/2012 10:10

Thanks Mark,

All I can add is that Ashley trained with the squad in Sale, but ultimately wasn't picked as part of the squad.

No 4 is actually Iolo. I know we have a host of backs at LW, but Iolo is a free agent and was very impressive at Edgeley Park.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 01/08/2012 10:38

Team copied and pasted from the club website, so any spelling mistakes are official!



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Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Crug Mawr (IP Logged)
Date: 01/08/2012 10:45

Quote:
Mark W-J
Copied and pasted from the club website, so any spelling mistakes are official!

I wasn't questioning you for a moment Mark!

Bit disappointing for the club to get a players name wrong.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: casual13 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/08/2012 20:03

Quote:
Crug Mawr
Quote:
Mark W-J
Copied and pasted from the club website, so any spelling mistakes are official!

I wasn't questioning you for a moment Mark!

Bit disappointing for the club to get a players name wrong.

I rest my case - still at least the one London Welsh player managed to get into your mercenary squad!!!

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: galliano2001 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/08/2012 16:08

Quote:
Perhaps it was a tactical masterstroke that other clubs missed?

Indeed, assuming you mean that you want the rest of the Premiership fans to be rather amused at LW fans getting excited about the Samurai playing well.

You are aware you are not allowed to hire in the Canterbury Crusaders to play for you come September? In the space of a few weeks I have gone from being very positive about LW being promoted to now looking forward to you being humped off the park come opening weekend. What a PR master-class. Well done.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 02/08/2012 16:23

Well There's RED RAG to a bull galliano2001. We may very well be beaten on the opening day. Personally i don't hold with that theory, and that's not being naive or foolhardy. Remember we LONDON WELSH have nothing to lose (OTHER THAN THE GAME OF COURSE) but we can & will deliver during the season. Of that i have no doubt. PADDYTAF.



"GIVE THEM NO BALL OR BAD BALL WELSH"

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: galliano2001 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/08/2012 16:52

paddytaf - you miss my point. I was genuinely happy for you coming up, but your clubs antics in the 7's has lost you all goodwill with me and several other fans from various prem clubs. Rather than supporting you as the underdog come the start of the season against the likes of Leicester, I now hope you get knocked down a rung or two for this sham.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 02/08/2012 17:41

It may have passed you by but i'm only a supporter & have no say whatsoever as to who plays or represents LONDON WELSH. It is my understanding that due to the lengthy & drawn out decision that finally allowed us in to the Premiership we were not in the zone or up to speed with providing a team of 7's players for this tournament. Having said this mind i am as bemused as you & many others as to why we didn't use our own squad players to perform. We do have some very useful players in our squad but as to whether they are good at 7's or not i'm unable to comment. PADDYTAF.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 03/08/2012 10:02

Live stream tonight at [www.coolsport.tv]

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: digitalsys (IP Logged)
Date: 04/08/2012 11:30

Yes I think the whole things wrt the 7s has been a bit of a PR gaff, and from having support of many other prem club fans, it has turned in the opposite direction, as some of the commments have eluded to.

It would have been far better to attend the 7's and taken a bit of a knock in the first round - get a bit hammered (everyone knows that your team won't have been getting ready for the 7's so nobody will have thought of LW any less as a club) but to go for hired guns was a demonstration in how not to do it. This is not directed at LW fans - merely your board/directors and chairman.

It will be remembered by players from other clubs in the prem, and they will just be lining up to see who can put the most points away against LW. This is not inteneded as a dig at your fans in the slightest, but if it had been done by another club, I am sure the fans would make their feelings known to the club, and a little embarassment - but not here, and I am not sure why.

Good luck for the season though - you may need it - and it often does come down to a little good luck on the day.

A good 'old' fighter pilots saying.... 'I'd rather be lucky than good - any day of the week'

Enjoy

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/08/2012 13:16

Quote:
digitalsys
It will be remembered by players from other clubs in the prem, and they will just be lining up to see who can put the most points away against LW.
Far, far too much being made of this - an insignificant pre season sevens tournament that in the scheme of things doesn't matter a jot.
Every team in the Premiership will be lining up to put as many points as possible on LW - they're professionals! As one Prem player told me last week 'you just can't be seen to be the first team to lose to Welsh. They'd all be laughing all the way to Newcastle!'

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/08/2012 14:40

Whatever. We beat London Irish in one of the two games and London Irish, who played a good deal better in the other tie, went on to win overall. A jolly night out, with Ashley Smith showing his skills and leaving a competent side which on the night was not quite good enough a bath side with hoe support. London Irish played a delightful game (not the tie against London Welsh, though they only lost that 17-29) and were popular overall winners (not least because Gloucester are local rivals with Bath). It's only a laugh, but good to see a packed stadium in August for any kind of rugby.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Watching The Poodle (IP Logged)
Date: 05/08/2012 13:30

Quote:
paddytaf
Well Remember we LONDON WELSH have nothing to lose [/color]

Very true. You lost any respect rugby folk had for you when you ponced a team to play in your place in the competition.

Can't wait for your relegation. Although you will probably go into liquidation before then of course.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: lukelisa (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2012 00:32

Glad you did not win the JP Morgan 7s. I think that all your team should have been London Welsh players not men from all over that had a good record of playing sevens. I would have called it unfair play.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2012 11:09

Getting really fed up with all this carping about the sevens. The AP is full of teams who've snaffled players from all over, cheat the salary cap (ref Brian Moore Telegraph, often) and use precious few local guys in their squads. The schemes used to get players on board are legion - look at the Thorpe to Leicester deal where Irish end up paying part of his salary for the first season - whose player is he?
And poodle faker, luke lisa etc you bleat on about a sevens tournament that doesn't matter but say nowt about the XV a side game. If you want the kind of tournament you seem to want then scrap the pro game and let's all go back to being jolly amateurs using lads who were born no more than five miles away from your ground.

Re: London Welsh win JP Morgan 7s Pool B
Posted by: Ellie Crisell (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2012 12:16

Quote:
lukelisa
Glad you did not win the JP Morgan 7s. I think that all your team should have been London Welsh players not men from all over that had a good record of playing sevens. I would have called it unfair play.

Sevens is a different game to 15s.

You might as well moan about us beating some team in a charity cricket game.

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