London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview


By Mark W-J
December 5 2012

The stop-start nature of London Welsh’s season has become a recurring theme in recent weeks, and after a short, two-week burst of Premiership action, we return to European competition, for back-to-back fixtures with Grenoble.  The French club, like Welsh, are enjoying a first season in the top flight following promotion last summer, and they sit in sixth place in the Top 14 after twelve rounds.



Our own start to life in the Aviva Premiership has been rather more modest, although still significantly more successful than any of us had dared dream.  After ten rounds we sit in 10th place, with four wins and three losing bonus points contributing to a total of 19 points.  This puts us 13 points clear of bottom-placed Sale, a significant buffer at this stage of the season, but by no means insurmountable should the Sharks or, indeed, London Irish, hit a rich vein of form in the second half of the season.  But what has been overlooked by many people, as they look nervously down the table rather than up, is that we are also 13 points adrift of second-placed Saracens.  Each place in the top-half of the table is currently separated by a single point, from leaders Harlequins on 33 points to sixth-placed Exeter on 28, while we are seven points clear of our fellow Exiles but only one behind Worcester and five adrift of Wasps, coincidentally our next two opponents in the league.  Wasps have also collected four wins, but lead us due to their five additional bonus points - only Quins can match their three try-bonuses - while Worcester have won one game fewer but drawn one and collected a total of six bonus points.  As a consequence they are within our reach, and while they may not be worried about the relegation battle this year, we may still see them as direct rivals in our ‘mini-league’ at the bottom end of the table.

Wasps will entertain Sale in round eleven, meaning that they will have to travel to all four clubs below them in the table during the second half of the season.  At home they have won four from five, including victory over an under-strength Leicester side in round nine, but they have yet to pick up a victory on their travels.  This could be because they have only played away to top-half opposition, in which case they might aspire to mid-table obscurity in the New Year as they hope to beat the top sides at Wycombe while claiming the highly-valued away wins against the ‘lesser’ teams.  London Irish, on the other hand, have played all of the other teams in the bottom five away from home, with Sale, Wasps, Worcester and Welsh all travelling to Reading in the last seven rounds, when they will be aiming to bridge a gap which they will hope is not already too great.  We are the only one of the bottom five clubs to have won on our travels - at Sale in September - and you sense that, while home wins are all-important, the relegation battle could be decided by points earned away from home.  If we could win our three post-Christmas games at home to our nearest rivals (Wasps on 29th December; Sale on 17th February; Worcester on the final day) then you fancy that the Sharks would need to win six of their remaining twelve fixtures (bonus points notwithstanding) to overtake us.  Since the Premiership became a twelve-team competition in 1999-2000 only one club - Bristol in 2002-03 - has been relegated with seven victories to their name, although Harlequins collected six wins, one draw and twelve bonus points when they were relegated with a record high of 38 points two years later.
 


Gordon Ross' experience is proving crucial
in the battle to stay in the Premiership
 

Stop-start nature of the Premiership; check.  Win your ‘mini-league’; check.  Home wins are vital and away wins decisive; check.  Three top-flight clichés courtesy of Dragons’ Den.  So let’s introduce a fourth: the distraction of the cup.  While it was wonderful to welcome a club like Stade Francais to the Kassam for our first ever game in European competition, the result - the biggest home defeat in the club’s history - suggested that the Amlin European Challenge Cup - and the LV Anglo-Welsh Cup, for that matter - are not particularly high on Lyn Jones’ list of priorities this season.  Grenoble, despite being back in the top flight of French rugby after an eight year absence, have won seven and lost five of their twelve matches to sit in sixth place.  Although they lost 39-3 at leader Toulon last weekend, they are ahead of some of the biggest names in not just French but European rugby, including Biarritz (7th), Perpignan (8th), and the Parisian giants Racing Metro and Stade Franҫais (9th and 10th respectively).  Remarkably, they have scored 21 tries and 21 conversions, but only the league’s bottom two clubs - Agen (13th) and Mont-de-Marsan (14th) - have conceded more than their 25 tries, with 27 and 30 respectively.



It's a squad game... 
The cup gives Lyn Jones a chance to
tap into the versatility of players such as James Lewis

 

Grenoble were finalists in the Top 16 (as it was then) as recently as 1993: at a time when we were making the acquaintance of North Walsham, Weston-Super-Mare and Sudbury, they were playing for the highest honour in French rugby in front of a crowd of almost 50,000 at the Parc des Princes, although they lost 14-11 to Castres Olympique.  Eight years later they lost a relegation play-off against Pau, but twelve month on, under the guidance of Jacques Delmas - who subsequently led Biarritz to back-to-back league titles and the Heineken Cup final - they won promotion from the Pro D2 as runners-up to Mont-de-Marsan.  Delmas was replaced for the 2004-05 season by Dean Richards, as he returned to the game following his acrimonious departure from Leicester, but he only stayed for one season before returning to England, joining Harlequins after their relegation from the Premiership.  At the end of the 2005-06 season the Top 16 was reduced to fourteen clubs, and Grenoble were relegated two divisions as an audit revealed debts of over €3.5m - can you imagine what would happen if Premier Rugby were so conscientious…?  They won promotion from Fédérale 1, the equivalent of National League One, at the first time of asking, and last season finished top of Pro D2, 18 points clear of second-placed Pau, who lost the play-off final for the second promotion place to - you guessed it - Mont-de-Marsan.

In this year’s Amlin Challenge Cup, Grenoble opened with a 59-3 win at home to Cavalieri Prato before collecting a bonus point in a 24-21 defeat away to Stade Franҫais.  As a consequence they are currently in second place in Pool 5, three points behind their Parisian rivals, but with a marginally better points difference.  Stade will be expected to pick-up the maximum ten points from their double-header with the Italian minnows, who had themselves suffered twelve consecutive bonus-point defeats in Europe prior to collecting two bonus points when we visited them in round two.  If Grenoble were able to extend their current league form to the end of the season then they could qualify for next season’s Heineken Cup on their own merit; Stade’s domestic woes suggest that this is their only realistic route into the blue riband event for next season.  For Welsh, it’s back to the clichés - Premiership survival is all that matters.

 


"Oh, the weather outside is frightful"
Friday's forecast for Grenoble - wrap up warm! 

 

 

 

 

London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: The Dragons' Den (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 10:11

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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: davidcaldwell (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 10:56

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Wonder what it will be??

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 12:30

London Welsh: 15. Tom Arscott, 14. Phil MacKenzie*, 13. James Lewis, 12. Seb Jewell, 11. Ashley Smith, 10. Alex Davies, 9. Nick Runciman, 1. Tom Bristow, 2. Greg Bateman, 3. Arthur Joly, 4. Adam Brown, 5. Matt Corker, 6. Lee Beach, 7. Michael Hills, 8. Alfie To’oala*.

Replacements: 16. Willie Hafu, 17. Billy Moss, 18. James Tideswell, 19. Jonathan Mills, 20. Mike Denbee, 21. Matthew Keyte, 22. Simon Whatling, 23. Nick Scott.

* Denotes full international

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 12:58

Grenoble match squad (in alphabetical order):

ALEXANDRE - BEST - BUTONIDUALEVU - CAMPO - COOKE - Courrent - DARBO - DAVID - FABRO - FARLEY - GENGENBACHER - HART - HEGARTY - JAOUHER - KOUIDER - NINARD - NOUHAILLAGUET - POLLARD - REY - STEWART - TAUKEIAHO - VANDERGLAS - WAQASEDUADUA

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 13:51

Sorry, forgot to add in the match official info as sent to me from darkest Kent.

Referee: Andrew McMenemy (Scotland)

Assistant Referee 1: Peter Allan (Scotland)

Assistant Referee: 2 Adrian Graves (Scotland)


Apparently there was a feature on Gordon Ross in the School Sports section of Tuesday's Telegraph.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 13:55

Quote:
davidcaldwell
http://www.sabrain.com/news/130622
Wonder what it will be??

'To find out what’s on the London Welsh shirt, tune in to watch the match on Friday 7th December at 6:30pm.'

Watch it where?

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 17:32

Just read a tweet on london welsh rugby, by rugby union news. Apparently Jones has put a second stringe side to impress him! I hate arogant tweeters! If you see this show the boys!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 19:46

Grenoble team:

15. Joaquim Tuculet, 14. Viliame Waqaseduadua, 13. Rida Jaouher, 12. Aloisio Butonidualevu, 11. Florian Ninard, 10. James Hart, 9. Clement Darbo, 1. Romain David, 2. Vincent Campo, 4. Thibault Rey, 5. Andrew Farley, 6. Fabien Alexandre, 7. Jonathan Best, 8. Flavein Nouhaillaguet,

16. Anthony Hegarty, 17. Gregory Fabro, 18. Karim Kouider, 19. Alexandre Pollard, 20. Valentin Courrent, 21. Henri Vanderglas, 22. Blair Stewart, 23. Fabien Gengenbacher,

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Ealingnye (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 21:52

Do you think the main reason the game isn't being televised is that there isn't a commentator in the land that can pronounce the Grenoble teams 8 & 14?

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 06/12/2012 22:05

So if we win tomorrow the second Team is better than the first team, ha ha oo that's embaracing!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 13:39

Not looking too hopeful for the Grenoble match...pitch inspection at 4pm (French time? that makes it 3pm here).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9g2MemCIAAQb92.jpg

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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 13:46

Is it too early to ask why they don't have covers, why the match wasn't called off beforehand, why did they let our boys travel with the weather that was forecast...?

*bigwinkysmileythingcoveredinsnow*

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 14:17

INFORMATION OFFICIELLE : Suite aux mauvaises conditions météorologiques et à de nombreuses interrogations, le match est pour l'instant MAINTENU. Toutefois, une réunion avec l'arbitre et les London Welsh est prévue à 16h30. Nous vous communiquerons la décision finale à 17H00. Merci de votre compréhension.

OFFICIAL INFORMATION: Due to bad weather and many questions, the game is currently MAINTAINED. However, a meeting with the referee and the London Welsh is expected at 16:30. We will communicate the final decision at 17:00. Thank you for your understanding.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Dragons' Den (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 14:26

We did include a weather forecast at the end of the preview to help them out!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 14:35

Quote:
davidcaldwell
http://www.sabrain.com/news/130622
Wonder what it will be??

Looking at that picture of the pitch they just need to change the logo from 'Brains' to 'Brrrrrr'.

As long as the ground can take a stud and the lines are visible then the game could go ahead. Neither team are going to want it postponed and the game only needs to last 60 mins for the result to stand.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 14:46

...and you can't have a final decision at 5pm for a 7.30 ko unless the game is off. The match can be called off at any time up to ko and, of course, after it has started.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 15:03

CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS: The land must be plowed Lesdiguières! The FCG needs your help to clear snow from the lawn Lesdiguières! Any person presenting before 4:15 p.m. ET welcome. Offered a place each volunteer (Please take a shovel, Ballai ...)! WE ARE AWAITING YOU, go to the entrance to the Bodega store and direct access to the ground!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 16:25

If anyone's on twitter, there's some good photos of the snow and pitch.

EDIT: players also tweeting that the match IS on.



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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 16:44

That doesn't look playable, end of story surely. Still it's got paddytaf his outing away from sunny England, and he'll have to do it all again. The first casualty of this bitter winter.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 16:51

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9hndX3CEAA_kLN.jpg

Looks fine to me!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 16:59

The game has to be played this weekend, and it's up to Grenoble to provide a suitable venue. I'd have thought that playing in the Alps in December might be asking for trouble, but maybe that's just me...

A few years ago Leeds refused to play a Heineken Cup tie in Italy because they felt that the pitch was dangerous. They were awarded five points because the Italians had failed to provide a suitable venue, despite the fact that it was Leeds who refused to take to the field.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 17:23

Seems an easier route to five points than scoring four tries. Whoever schedules rugby matches in December must be an optimist to set one for an evening in the Alps.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 17:28

Amlin Cup site will have live updates

ercrugby.com

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 17:30

midi olympique may be quicker
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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 17:42

FCG/London Welsh : pelouse déneigée

FCG-LW-01Le travail de déneigement est terminé, il reste à tracer les lignes du terrain et à espérer que les dieux de la neige ne s'attardent pas sur Lesdiguières...Merci à tous


FCG / London Welsh: lawn plowed

FCG-LW-01The work of snow removal is complete, it remains to trace the lines of ground and hope that the gods of snow do not dwell on Lesdiguières ... Thanks to all

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 18:16

Fortunately not quite the infamous headline from The Sun....

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/images/news/LWelshUseYours1213.jpg

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: 123paul (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 19:06

With the weather like that i think that its a kickers game..hope we can do it

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 19:13

Two pens and a penalty miss for each team to make it 6-6 at half time.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 20:07

13-9 grenoble lead about ten mins left....

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 20:09

Why has Jon Mills gone on for the last 14 minutes? Why risk him in such an insignificant match?

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 20:16

Yellow for Runciman and Whatling replaces Jewell. I'd guess that Alex Davies will cover scrum-half and a Whatling will play at 10.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 20:18

F/T 20-9

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/12/2012 20:19

20-9 FT



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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/12/2012 10:47

"Now we can concentrate on the League"

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: londonbound (IP Logged)
Date: 08/12/2012 10:53

Ah that means we don't care! To all that attended Grenoble. Thank you!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/12/2012 10:59

It means we can use the home games against Grenoble this coming weekend and against I Cavalieri for development purposes. If we get a win or two, that's a bonus.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Verd (IP Logged)
Date: 08/12/2012 11:57

Totally agree. Survival in AP has always been the priority. Wasps & Warriors are games we have to come away with wins/points. C'mon Welsh!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 09/12/2012 14:42

The result isn't important in comparison to the league season but these cup matches must be used to ensure that players outside of (what has become) Lyn's preferred match squad get a chance to shine and also to keep match fit. With the injury rate in the Premiership Lyn may have to use them regardless of whether he really wants to! I hope the 23 selected for Friday's were given time together and the necessary coaching as a squad before they travelled, otherwise it's a wasted opportunity.

There were three players in that 23 that are clearly Lyn's first choice in the usual AP squad. I don't understand why they were risked for this game.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: paddytaf (IP Logged)
Date: 10/12/2012 21:46

Although the scoreline may suggest we were beaten fairly easily, i can vouch that this was not the case and that the scoreline does not do us any justice. The conditions were poor and there were handling errors by both sides which didn't help. All of this said though with a little bit more luck the result could have been completely different. Unlucky guys, good effort. PADDYTAF.



"GIVE THEM NO BALL OR BAD BALL WELSH"

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: ze stade fan (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2012 15:49

You may have won that game, my friends ! According to the Frenc press, quoting the ERC, the Grenoble RFC has fielded for 62 minutes a player (a prop witha nice Tahitian name...) who was NOT on the ERC European Challenge list. So, according to further investigation, the London Welsh might get 4 or even 5 points from this game...[:wor kid:]

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Mark W-J (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2012 15:54

Not only is the tighthead not on ERC's list, but he's not on NLD's teamsheet, either...

Quote:
nld
Grenoble team:
15. Joaquim Tuculet, 14. Viliame Waqaseduadua, 13. Rida Jaouher, 12. Aloisio Butonidualevu, 11. Florian Ninard, 10. James Hart, 9. Clement Darbo, 1. Romain David, 2. Vincent Campo, 4. Thibault Rey, 5. Andrew Farley, 6. Fabien Alexandre, 7. Jonathan Best, 8. Flavein Nouhaillaguet,

16. Anthony Hegarty, 17. Gregory Fabro, 18. Karim Kouider, 19. Alexandre Pollard, 20. Valentin Courrent, 21. Henri Vanderglas, 22. Blair Stewart, 23. Fabien Gengenbacher,

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2012 16:15

Quote:
Mark W-J
Not only is the tighthead not on ERC's list, but he's not on NLD's teamsheet, either...
Quote:
nld
Grenoble team:
15. Joaquim Tuculet, 14. Viliame Waqaseduadua, 13. Rida Jaouher, 12. Aloisio Butonidualevu, 11. Florian Ninard, 10. James Hart, 9. Clement Darbo, 1. Romain David, 2. Vincent Campo, 4. Thibault Rey, 5. Andrew Farley, 6. Fabien Alexandre, 7. Jonathan Best, 8. Flavein Nouhaillaguet,

16. Anthony Hegarty, 17. Gregory Fabro, 18. Karim Kouider, 19. Alexandre Pollard, 20. Valentin Courrent, 21. Henri Vanderglas, 22. Blair Stewart, 23. Fabien Gengenbacher,

No other evidence needed. My teamsheet is more than enough to confirm their guilt.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: dottigirl (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2012 16:30

The fella here?

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Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 11/12/2012 17:57

Bag packed and waiting for ERC to call me to attend the hearing in Dublin as a witness (expenses paid of course).

I'll pop into the IRB HQ and have a word with them about the RWC seedings whilst I there. I'm sure that careful negotiations over a Guinness or two could get the Australia result expunged from the records and Wales moved into an easier group.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 00:41

Despite the frightful wesather at the moment in terms of cold, ice, snow (here and there), fog etc., I am very confident the match on 15th at Kassam will go ahead, as the temperature is set for an upward shift by the weekend. Let's hope we can retrieve honour if nothing else. Of cours, if Prato and Grenoble can slay Stade ... (Nothing is impossible if you look at the Prato v Stade scoreline)

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 14:36

The ERC Hearings correspondent (based in Kent) sent me the following:

"FC Grenoble Rugby takes note of the convening of the Disciplinary Committee of the ERC Thursday, December 13. He recognizes a breach of the rules on voter registration ERC medical joker Lotu Taukeiaho during the game against the London Welsh, won by FCG (20-9). This failure is the result of an administrative error in hiring player last October, the player was then in good faith on the sheet of the match against London Welsh while the listing for the Tournament Club was not effective. club will travel to Dublin to present its arguments to the Commission. He will be accompanied for the occasion by an Irish lawyer specializing in sports law "

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 14:51

Irish lawyer....they'll get off with 100 lines then

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Ealingnye (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 15:27

Grenoble or the ERC getting the lines?

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 16:43

Grenoble just need to change their name to Dylan Hartley RFC and they'll get off with the lightest of punishments.

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 18:18

From Twitter:

Grenoble have had their @ercrugby round 3 game v @LondonWelshRFC reversed to a 0-28 score for the French side fielding an ineligible player

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: adge1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 18:24

told you.... they've taken all the welsh points away!!!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: GMH1 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 18:38

Quote:
London Welsh were awarded a 28-0 win and five match points, and the tournament’s Pool 5 table will be amended to reflect the decision.

More importantly, does this affect the prediction league?!

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Dragons' Den (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 18:54

Quote:
GMH1
Quote:
London Welsh were awarded a 28-0 win and five match points, and the tournament’s Pool 5 table will be amended to reflect the decision.

More importantly, does this affect the prediction league?!

We'll stick with the actual final score not the one created by committee!

(Sm159)

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: DanFW3 (IP Logged)
Date: 13/12/2012 23:40

With one bound, our points difference with Grenoble changes by 9 (London Welsh up 5, Grenoble down 4) so we are still very much in contention and Saturday 15th's home game against Grenoble suddenly becomes worth putting in maximum effort for (and getting a maximum possible gate and support).

Aux Armes, citoyens! (Predictive text kept saying "city end")

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: chappers (IP Logged)
Date: 14/12/2012 01:17

Quote:
DanFW3
so we are still very much in contention

Not so sure about that SF had a 5 point win tonight, even if we got a maximum of 15 points from our three remaining games SF would only need 5 or 6 ponits depending on the number of tries/points difference

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: Ealingnye (IP Logged)
Date: 14/12/2012 07:39

I'm not that familiar with this competition, is there a runners up in the group qualification route?

Re: London Welsh Round-Up & Grenoble Preview
Posted by: nld (IP Logged)
Date: 14/12/2012 08:18

Quote:
Ealingnye
I'm not that familiar with this competition, is there a runners up in the group qualification route?

Just the top team from each group through to q-f stage. They are joined by the three H Cup group runners-up that didn't qualify for the H Cup q-f stage.

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